zomghax

More free flowing? No..... If you look at the Borla website, Turbo mufflers come in 13 1/4" or 14" case lengths. Turbo XL mufflers come in 19" case lengths. The difference is size; the bigger the muffler, the quieter the exhuast note. That's why when SilverSS/SC called and said he wanted it QUIET, they sold him the biggest muffler they could. It's just a perforated core wrapped in sound packing material. I picked the Turbo model because I want my exhaust note to sound good, and deep, but still be loud as hell

Joeyavhu

Would the regular Turbo be really loud, or just a little louder. I want a noticable differnce from stock, but nothing really loud.

zomghax

My 2.5" mandrel rear section with a Borla Turbo goes on tomorrow, I'll let you know. I've got a 2.4L NA and not the 2.0L S/C, but it should be close enough to still give an objective opinion

Joeyavhu

Yea, it should give a pretty decent idea. Also, when I got to the shop, if I have the U Bend, how do they connect the pipe to the U Bend. It looks like it goes to 2.25 right before the U Bend and then curves up and then goes over the axle. How do I get it to curve up to connect to the U-Bend?

SilverSS/SC

When talking with the Borla rep , this is the muffler he head over heals recommended for my requirements . When I step up to a 3" when the need arises , I will be running a 3" version of the same muffler .

Thanks for the comments again guys .

zomghax

Got my 2.5" axleback done today and I am in freakin love. Damn I just wanna hump it. Anyhoo, just like I suspected the regular Borla Turbo muffler sounds pretty much like SilverSS/SC sound clips, only quite a bit louder due to the smaller case size. I also had a 4" double wall stainless steel tip that was a hardcore 10" long welded on to the muffler. That's probably acting like a megaphone of sorts and amplifying the sound

Thanks to the excellent sound dampening of teh Cobalt, I can't really hear much inside with the windows up and the Sunroof closed. Roll the windows down and give it some throttle though, and it's bliss. It's probably about as deep and throaty as a 4-banger is going to get.

I am completely sold on Borla products from this point on!

sscobalt06

I dont like the gargle when down shifting.

ReMz

after pming back and forth with silverSS/SC, im fairly confident that the Corsa Sport makes similar sound. although the axel-back setup is cheaper, all the local shops gave me the feeling they were going to rape me on fabricating prices.

i ended up with the corsa. i would say it is a bit louder and probably has a slightly higher performance gain. i also have popping and gargling while downshifting or letting off the throttle, but it's not a high pitched ricey popping. i am a lifetime fan of Borla products aswell, btw.

edit: i love how you can 'hear' the exhaust in cabin... but when the windows are down it frickin rumbles. same with the silverSS/SC style setup?

maxpit

Can you make a sound clip at WOT?

SilverSS/SC

I'll have a friend take vid at wot , I dunno if itll get posted today though .

fifasf

Getting her put on at 8:30 tonight. Will let you know what I think asap.

fifasf

This thing sounds awsome! Love it. nice and clean low tone. when I go ***** to the wall, it still remains clean. Although I have to say that when the car was put on the lift, it was not as simple as you explained, there is a lot more cuting and welding involved then a simple cut weld weld as you explained. there are a few turns before it goes over the axle just to let everyone know who is going to do this. I would put a sound byte up but it sounds just like the others. I recommend this to anyone who wants an exhaust but does not want the fart can sound. By the way I think I lost 25 lbs. just by taking off the stock muffler, that thing is huge!!!! and heavy!!!!

Joeyavhu

Where exactly does it go to 2.25 from 2.5. Is it before the curve, or on the way up to the U-Bend?

zomghax

Get down on the ground and look under your car right in front of the driver's side rear tire. There's an exhaust bend and joint right in front of you. That's where it reduces from 2.5" to 2.25".

fifasf

Yea it kind that is exactly where it is. It is more involved than it sounds. Well worth it though

Joeyavhu

I see where it is, but then, how, about 2 inches after it, where the pipe starts going up, how do you get it to bend up to go to the U-Bend, and then, on the other side of the axle, when the U-Bend is coming down, how do you straighten it out so you can connect the muffler?

fifasf

they cut the piping up and they piece it together then weld it. They don't bend hell out of it that would take for ever.

Joeyavhu

Oh, okay, so they weld a bunch of tiny pieces off of that. I didnt think of that. Thank you.

The01Cav

Any new updates? I know this is back from the dead but I didnt know if the 3" exhaust happened yet?