How do most people do the ice box mod? And why such a poor dragstrip performance?
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this is wrong. i know what you are getting at, and it doesnt apply the same way in drag racing. for short bursts, it is beneficial. you would have to be either ignorant or in denial to argue introducing completely new MUCH colder fluid into a water/air system. the weight negligible and the fact intake temps are only rising say 11-13* across a full pass is proof it doesnt heak soak as bad.
now, in a road course application a large enough system to keep the system chilled would be a bad choice.
now, in a road course application a large enough system to keep the system chilled would be a bad choice.
until then, I'll go on my experience. closed system with an efficient IC and they work for drag racing. open system, FWD, inefficient IC/blower, it doesn't work.
So what do you suggest to me Zoomer if I would like to trap around 106 to 108 mph like other people who have a 2.7" pulley without meth? It seems like I'm far away from this with my 102 mph! My clutch is slipped during my 14.0 @ 102 mph pass, but I dont think that my clutch slip would reduce that much my mph!
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The iceboxes work, theres a guy on JBO named Airtonics and I had to race him at the GM Tuner Bash in Ohio this year. His IATs were 40 degrees cooler than mine. He was running 12.8s.
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Post up the IATs before and after an ice box mod. Include a formula for HP gained based on IAT drop and compare it to ETs based on additional weight. Do that and you have me sold.
until then, I'll go on my experience. closed system with an efficient IC and they work for drag racing. open system, FWD, inefficient IC/blower, it doesn't work.
until then, I'll go on my experience. closed system with an efficient IC and they work for drag racing. open system, FWD, inefficient IC/blower, it doesn't work.
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Yes but do you see how much high he traps? Lack of traction can be a big reason why his time looks like a stage 2 time with the right 60'. You can talk about me doing like a stage 2 car however .
Maybe my stock catback is restricting how much power my car can have? My mod list was there at the beginning of this tread but I'm gonna tell it again:
-2.7" pulley
-60 lbs/hr injectors
-OTTP tune, 18 degrees of timing @ WOT, around 11.5-11.6 of AFR
-R.A.W. cold air intake
-CTI header
-CTI 3" downpipe
-STOCK catback
-OTTP heat exchanger
-GM dual pass intercooler endplate
-Stu mod
-OTTP rotated trans mounts stage 2
-Nitto INVO 235/35/R18 @ 22 PSI at the dragstrip (front tires)
-Football balloons @ 30 PSI, one of them failed while I was on my way for the dragstrip. They were used as dragbags into the rear springs.
I have to add that my tune got viewed by Vince from Trifecta and he told me that it seemed already fine and that he couldnt do really better, the timing curve looked right except maybe bumping A LITTLE the timing like 1 to 2 degrees max. And he told me that this wasnt even sure, that I could see some knock if I do it.
The OTTP 2.5" catback is supposed to come soon, and Sean from OTTP told me that I could get an extra 10 to 15 whp with it.
So...?
Don't forget all to look at my youtube link of the 14.05s pass I did . You can see right there how much my clutch slip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVTiAkEDU_s
Originally Posted by Zooomer
depends on mod list but most likely the pulley is too small for your mods. Add octane or increase pulley size.
-2.7" pulley
-60 lbs/hr injectors
-OTTP tune, 18 degrees of timing @ WOT, around 11.5-11.6 of AFR
-R.A.W. cold air intake
-CTI header
-CTI 3" downpipe
-STOCK catback
-OTTP heat exchanger
-GM dual pass intercooler endplate
-Stu mod
-OTTP rotated trans mounts stage 2
-Nitto INVO 235/35/R18 @ 22 PSI at the dragstrip (front tires)
-Football balloons @ 30 PSI, one of them failed while I was on my way for the dragstrip. They were used as dragbags into the rear springs.
I have to add that my tune got viewed by Vince from Trifecta and he told me that it seemed already fine and that he couldnt do really better, the timing curve looked right except maybe bumping A LITTLE the timing like 1 to 2 degrees max. And he told me that this wasnt even sure, that I could see some knock if I do it.
The OTTP 2.5" catback is supposed to come soon, and Sean from OTTP told me that I could get an extra 10 to 15 whp with it.
So...?
Don't forget all to look at my youtube link of the 14.05s pass I did . You can see right there how much my clutch slip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVTiAkEDU_s
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