05BlackSS

I have been reading that people are snapping axles and burning up their clutches with I assume more then a stage II installed.
I know Stage II has been tested but I am curious as to how well our stock clutch and axles will hold up? I also have a GMPP sport exhaust on order.

Regards,

Jason

06blackg85ss

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axles should be good til you actually get traction then buh bye.... clutch is another story... my friend blew his up at 1400 miles (yes blew up) mine is going or gone (waiting to drop trans) another friend with stg 2 is slipping... and another kid around here blew his up at 600 miles... so yeah they suck,,, and by the way gm won't fix em ... even under 12000 miles... aint that some ****

SS33

You may get lucky and never have a problem, or you may not.

People have blown axles at stock power levels.

If you feel even slight wheel hop back off of it INSTANTLY

and yes our stock clutches are a joke as well.

2K5SS/SC?

Even if you let off instantly, there's a good chance they'll snap! I am a victim of both the axle and clutch problem. Axle upgrade and some serious power adders when I get home though!

SuperCobaltSS

Blew my clutch at 250WHP

SS33

Yeah I backed off at the first little hop, and still blew one. That was all it took for me to upgrade

I don't ever want to be stranded again. Now I just hafta make up my mind on what clutch I wanna go with. In the meantime I will beat the **** out of the stocker and hope it dies gracefully

SS33

I was probably close to that. With stg 2 w/ 2.8 and CAI.

2K5SS/SC?

The stock clutch went like a week after Stage 2 was installed. The axle snapped with just an intake! I went with the ClutchMasters Stage FX300. At first it sucked because the first designs didn't work, but now that it was redesigned due to my "test fits," I absolutely love it!

SS33

^^How much did the Clutchmasters run you, and where did you get it?

you can PM me if you don't wanna post publicly about it

thanks

leviticus88

Ive been launching my car hard since I got it and havent had any problems with either the clutch or axles. Im sure it's coming but for now they are fine. I have 13k miles since this morning. Some just get lucky.

06blackg85ss

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I didn't even get wheel hop... just broke at the hit of the throttle... damn toothpick axles

05BlackSS

So its just usually during Launch that the axels will break? What about between shifts? 1st to 2nd etc?

06blackg85ss

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Can also occur too.... most likely the tranny will go (non g85) seen 2 blow around here. and possibly mine... I'll find that out tonight

dtrain

I am a example i have a 2006 cobalt my axles broke in 2 weeks. wheelhop will kill our axles.

CbYellowSS

gm will fix the clutches if

1 they can get the clutch to slip and

2 they dont have an excuse why the clutch is fucked (tire tread low excetera)





i was a victim of number 1.... since my clutch didnt slip on them they said they couldnt do anything about it..

Manny13

by axel do you guys mean the driveshafts. I'm not good with part names or locations. I noticed that intense has some driveshafts good for 400 WHP for 799.00

SS33

Yup that's what we're talking about. driveshaft, axle, halfshaft, all talking about the same parts

And here's my install thread for the Driveshaft Shop axles I bought from Intense

torrin1234

is it worth it to invest in an 800 dollar driveshaft?

2K5SS/SC?

Yes, and there are two for our car. $799 for the pair is definately money well spent

Oh, I ordered the clutch from Turbo Tech racing originally. It's much cheaper now, but I would probably go with the Exedy this time as they have an awesome flywheel/clutch combo.

Xenozx

I have almost 16,000 miles on my car. I have stage 2 and MANY other mods. My brother has about the same amount of miles on his Saturn Redline and has more mods and hasnt had problems either.

I am starting to believe its the driver and not the clutch that is the problem. My clutch has NEVER slipped once. Only problem I have with it is when launching from a high RPM and trying to get it to grab and also if you do a 1st - 2nd shift while your tires are spinning it will act a bit funny, but everywhere else its 100% like day 1.

ReMz

i agree completely. my clutch is still holding stong.... but i still do not have much faith in it (hence i dont slip it often).

2K5SS/SC?

I'm a damn good driver, and I don't ride the clutch. The stock clutch sucks period. My friends will constest as they saw it slip several times right after I put on Stage 2. Before Stage 2 it was fine, and I never had a problem. I have the FX300 CM clutch now, and not a single damn problem.

SS33

Thanks, I'll look into that.

SS33

Maybe in some cases, but I've been driving manual for over a decade, and know hot to drive.

My clutch has only slipped twice, and both times it slipped after the 1-2 shift was completed, and after my tires chirped when second gear grabbed.

That is not riding the clutch, my left foot was totally disengaged, and I was accelerating when it happened.

And my axle blew in almost the same way, launched in first spun pretty bad backed off a bit, shifted into second, wheelspin turned into wheelhop, and before I could back off, boom.

Now I'm not saying that the stock clutch can't hold the power, as most of the time it does. But there are instances, where it won't. And these are not always caused by driver error.

As for the axles, if you launch your car, and ever get wheelhop, these can and will break, even at stock power levels. If you've seen where our stock shafts taper than you'll see why. Maybe not all will go in their first year,,, but what about 3 years down the road??? All those launches will add up. every time you get wheel hop you send tons of force through the axles, and possible begin that twist process that leads to total failure

For, me axles were a no brainer. I would have broken another stocker for sure, and $800 was a good investment to know it wouldnt be the axle

As for the clutch, we know my axles aren't breaking, so I will gladly be the guinea pig and try to find out more about when and why these things fall short.

sheek360

how safe are they with stage2? It depends on the driver man, 5k rpm feathering wont help the clutch any, just an example.