2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 03-21-2011, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
damn, now i remember why I dont come over to .nub much anymore

I feel like this site is going in reverse anymore.
Old 03-21-2011, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nizzle
That's what I thought to but then I proved myself wrong, unfortunately. I dont want it to be like this. I wish it was on all the time.
it is...other than the first 10sec. after you start the car, unless your tuned(like me, its on as soon as the car starts)
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gonna work on getting a vid to show you. dont know if it will work tho.
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
it is...other than the first 10sec. after you start the car, unless your tuned(like me, its on as soon as the car starts)

Gonna keep researching. will be outside with the car for a min.
Old 03-21-2011, 02:29 PM
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you saw the screen shot from hpt...did that not make sense to you?
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:32 PM
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you know what? imma go see if i can get a vid too
Old 03-21-2011, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
you saw the screen shot from hpt...did that not make sense to you?
I'm done til I can get the vid up.
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here is one. sorry so blurry, took vids on my phone with crapy vid camera.

YouTube - ic pump vid1

here is another

YouTube - ic pump vid2.3g2

The phone would only let me send 20 second vids
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I will use a better camera later so I can record for longer and have better quality. Just did a quick couple to show you real quick.
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LMAO!!! cause ur not going anywhere!!! when ur going down the road ur getting air through the intake which cools ur temps.... so when ur under load the intake sucks up air
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LMAO!!! cause ur not going anywhere!!! when ur going down the road ur getting air through the intake which cools ur temps....
that's why i did one sitting still and one moving for just this arguement. NOtice the 2 videos. and we're talking about when the ic pump turns on. not outside air temps or IAT1's
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Originally Posted by nizzle
here is one. sorry so blurry, took vids on my phone with crapy vid camera.

YouTube - ic pump vid1

here is another

YouTube - ic pump vid2.3g2

The phone would only let me send 20 second vids
All that is showing is your IAT2's coming down when you accelerate. Which they will.

When you accelerate you are bringing in fresh air which will cool the intake charge. That's why the charge air (IAT2's) decrease when you press the gas. It isnt because the intercooler pump turned on. The intercooler pump is constantly running, and circulating the fluid to help remove heat from the charge. No fresh air for the intercooler/heat exchanger to cool will cause it to heat up no matter what.

I dont think you completely understand IAT2's and how it all works.
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Originally Posted by nizzle
that's why i did one sitting still and one moving for just this arguement. NOtice the 2 videos.
well when ur cruising and let off the gas ur engine is no longer under load which means the intake is doing what??? nothing but sitting there LOL but once u get back under load it cools it back down...its common sense man
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
All that is showing is your IAT2's coming down when you accelerate. Which they will.

When you accelerate you are bringing in fresh air which will cool the intake charge. That's why the charge air (IAT2's) decrease when you press the gas. It isnt because the intercooler pump turned on. The intercooler pump is constantly running, and circulating the fluid to help remove heat from the charge. No fresh air for the intercool to cool will cause it to heat up no matter what.

I dont think you completely understand IAT2's and how it all works.
But i have also tested the pig tail for the ic with a multi meter and a test light. The ecu controls the pump with the ground wire. When you turn the ignition on, the pump immdiately get 12v power. However, it does not get ground until it's under a load. I've tested it. more than once, but I will do it again soon. And if I am wrong, I will admit it, but I dont think I am.
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Originally Posted by nizzle
But i have also tested the pig tail for the ic with a multi meter and a test light. The ecu controls the pump with the ground wire. When you turn the ignition on, the pump immdiately get 12v power. However, it does not get ground until it's under a load. I've tested it.
I will say this one more time.

The pump is always running, and circulating the fluid under load and under no load.

Go out to your car, start it up, wait 10 sec, and grab one of the hoses for the heat exchanger/intercooler system. You will feel the coolant circulating through the system. If you have the stock fill neck you should be able to actually see the coolant moving.
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I want to see a video of the coolant flowing.
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
I will say this one more time.

The pump is always running, and circulating the fluid under load and under no load.

Go out to your car, start it up, wait 10 sec, and grab one of the hoses for the heat exchanger/intercooler system. You will feel the coolant circulating through the system. If you have the stock fill neck you should be able to actually see the coolant moving.
I heard you and I respect you knowledge but I really think I could be right on this one. Dont take it wrong. this is interesting to me and I really want to get to the bottom of this WITH you guys. I will record my next multi meter and test light test and I will show when the ecu send power to the pump. The pump cant operate with no power, so I will show when the power to the pump kicks on or off, whether it be 10 secs. after the car starts like you say or under a load like I say. No one (not even me LOL) will be able to argue about it once that test is done. It will prove one way or the other.
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Originally Posted by troyss
I want to see a video of the coolant flowing.
i have already purchased clear hose for my system. You're on the $. I need to install the clear hose.
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The hptuners showed me it stayes on thought. What about that?

Also clear hose will be sweet. What hoses are they? Can they withstand heat?

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cant we all just get along
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Originally Posted by troyss
The hptuners showed me it stayes on thought. What about that?

Also clear hose will be sweet. What hoses are they? Can they withstand heat?

I dont really care about that. I will prove it one way or another. If I end up proving myself wrong, then so be it.

Yes, just get clear hose approved for hot water heater use. The stuff I have has reinforcing webbing in it. can post a pic of it if you want
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Originally Posted by nizzle
I heard you and I respect you knowledge but I really think I could be right on this one. Dont take it wrong. this is interesting to me and I really want to get to the bottom of this WITH you guys. I will record my next multi meter and test light test and I will show when the ecu send power to the pump. The pump cant operate with no power, so I will show when the power to the pump kicks on or off, whether it be 10 secs. after the car starts like you say or under a load like I say. No one (not even me LOL) will be able to argue about it once that test is done. It will prove one way or the other.
That's fine man.

There is nothing wrong with testing things, and learning about your car.
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Like the others have said, your iat2 dont drop because the pump turns on under load, its the air coming through the intake. Like seriously, your temps changed so quickly, how in the hell would temps change that quick just by the pump moving the coolant. Just cuz the pump moves the coolant, isnt going to change the temps that quickly.
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Yes please. I want to see the hoses because it would be sweet


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