Intake Nightmare
#1
Intake Nightmare
well i came close to purchasing an Injen intake for my coby SS/SC but i had to go to the dealer today anyway so i thought i'd hold off buying the intake and just ask the dealer if it'll void the warrenty.....well it turns out that it will void the warrenty but i always thought an intake wouldnt touch the warrenty Ahh i dont know anymore.. Now im thinking about getting the stage I supercharger kit but thats gonna run me up $600 more than what the intake cost. But basically what im asking is if anybody's dealer assured them that an intake will be ok for the SS/SC and wont void the warrenty and if the Stage I SC kit is worth the extra 25hp...but what does the SC kit Stage I do for torque?
#3
And dealers love to blame aftermarket equipment on warranty repairs. A guy over on scionlife.com turned a bearing on his tC and when they looked at the crankcase oil, he had small metal flakes in there (duh). Well, the inside of his intake had small silver paint flakes and the dealer convinced Toyota that the small metal flakes in the crankcase came from the intake. Craziness.
#4
again, for the 27 millionth time, an intake in and of itself will NOT void your warrenty, unless the intake itself caused the problem... and, if the intake does cause a problem, (which it won't) only the affected part would be voided...
#6
ok here we go alil FYI for all the intake supercharged guys and warranty....the reason warranty gets voided due to intake is the wonderful oil that is on the cotton gauze type filter (K&N, even some foam intakes are oiled for filtering purpose) if that gets on your MAF sensor it contaminates it and will cause poor readings which throughs a code like MAF out of limits that caused a problem and void...to clean it get electronic cleaner and radio shake and just clean before you go to the dealership cuz i gaurantee they will go right for taht and be like ahhh l ook void...anything to make money
#7
Yes, it's true a CAI alone should not kill the warranty but a CAI will cause loads of problems if you do not tune the pcm. Once you take your vehicle to the stealership to look into the lean codes, say bye-bye warranty!
#9
Originally Posted by Pauly204
... Now im thinking about getting the stage I supercharger kit but thats gonna run me up $600 more than what the intake cost. But basically what im asking is if anybody's dealer assured them that an intake will be ok for the SS/SC and wont void the warrenty and if the Stage I SC kit is worth the extra 25hp...but what does the SC kit Stage I do for torque?
Stage 1 does not increase the amount of torque, only HP. It only adds the larger injectors and raises the redline. The larger injectors allow the engine to run higher RPM and therefore build more HP.
Stage 2 adds the smaller pulley, which increases boost and therefore more HP and torque. Because of the smaller pulley you can boost higher at lower RPMs giving you a much better power curve over Stage 1.
#13
I need to say something here because I am tired of these threads and then hearing everyone say "the intake doesn't void the entire warrenty blah blah blah".
Here are the facts. If you put aftermarket equiptment on your car that GM doesn't make and warrenty be prepared to fight for you life to get your warrenty honored. No, technically an intake doesn't void your warrenty except for on your intake. The thing is something like an intake can cause a domino effect. As said earlier if your filter is improperly oiled you will get oil on your MAF. Also an intake can cause your car to run lean which can be seen by a trained eye. Especially if they are pulling info from your computer. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the computer logs certain data points which would show a lean condition. Also a CAI can suck in water and if you do that your warrenty is gone. Think about it. Why should the dealer fix your car for free because you drove through water with a part not recommended by them?
So basically what I am saying is expect your warrenty to be voided. Maybe it's not legal but the dealership is going to try it. They are betting that you don't know about the Warrenty Act and if you do they are willing to bet you aren't going to hire a lawyer to fight them over it. In many cases it wouldn't even make sense. Let's say you need a new MAF, the cost of the lawyer is going to be equal or greater then that. You also have to realize that the mechanics at the dealership are trained proffesionals. This means chances are even if your intake didn't cause the malfunction they will be able to find any anomolies that are caused by the intake and somehow trace it back to the problem you are having.
Everyone here has this tough guy stance that "they have to honor your warrenty". Well no they don't because while from our point of view the burden of proof is on them to find how your intake voided the warrenty really the burden of proof is on us to prove it didn't. That's hard to do when they are the ones with the car apart in their shop. Just be forwarned that if you replace your intake you may run into problems with the warrenty. Be prepared for that because it's going to be a fight to have your rights upheld.
Here are the facts. If you put aftermarket equiptment on your car that GM doesn't make and warrenty be prepared to fight for you life to get your warrenty honored. No, technically an intake doesn't void your warrenty except for on your intake. The thing is something like an intake can cause a domino effect. As said earlier if your filter is improperly oiled you will get oil on your MAF. Also an intake can cause your car to run lean which can be seen by a trained eye. Especially if they are pulling info from your computer. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the computer logs certain data points which would show a lean condition. Also a CAI can suck in water and if you do that your warrenty is gone. Think about it. Why should the dealer fix your car for free because you drove through water with a part not recommended by them?
So basically what I am saying is expect your warrenty to be voided. Maybe it's not legal but the dealership is going to try it. They are betting that you don't know about the Warrenty Act and if you do they are willing to bet you aren't going to hire a lawyer to fight them over it. In many cases it wouldn't even make sense. Let's say you need a new MAF, the cost of the lawyer is going to be equal or greater then that. You also have to realize that the mechanics at the dealership are trained proffesionals. This means chances are even if your intake didn't cause the malfunction they will be able to find any anomolies that are caused by the intake and somehow trace it back to the problem you are having.
Everyone here has this tough guy stance that "they have to honor your warrenty". Well no they don't because while from our point of view the burden of proof is on them to find how your intake voided the warrenty really the burden of proof is on us to prove it didn't. That's hard to do when they are the ones with the car apart in their shop. Just be forwarned that if you replace your intake you may run into problems with the warrenty. Be prepared for that because it's going to be a fight to have your rights upheld.
#15
Originally Posted by IMADreamer
I need to say something here because I am tired of these threads and then hearing everyone say "the intake doesn't void the entire warrenty blah blah blah".
Here are the facts. If you put aftermarket equiptment on your car that GM doesn't make and warrenty be prepared to fight for you life to get your warrenty honored. No, technically an intake doesn't void your warrenty except for on your intake. The thing is something like an intake can cause a domino effect. As said earlier if your filter is improperly oiled you will get oil on your MAF. Also an intake can cause your car to run lean which can be seen by a trained eye. Especially if they are pulling info from your computer. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the computer logs certain data points which would show a lean condition. Also a CAI can suck in water and if you do that your warrenty is gone. Think about it. Why should the dealer fix your car for free because you drove through water with a part not recommended by them?
So basically what I am saying is expect your warrenty to be voided. Maybe it's not legal but the dealership is going to try it. They are betting that you don't know about the Warrenty Act and if you do they are willing to bet you aren't going to hire a lawyer to fight them over it. In many cases it wouldn't even make sense. Let's say you need a new MAF, the cost of the lawyer is going to be equal or greater then that. You also have to realize that the mechanics at the dealership are trained proffesionals. This means chances are even if your intake didn't cause the malfunction they will be able to find any anomolies that are caused by the intake and somehow trace it back to the problem you are having.
Everyone here has this tough guy stance that "they have to honor your warrenty". Well no they don't because while from our point of view the burden of proof is on them to find how your intake voided the warrenty really the burden of proof is on us to prove it didn't. That's hard to do when they are the ones with the car apart in their shop. Just be forwarned that if you replace your intake you may run into problems with the warrenty. Be prepared for that because it's going to be a fight to have your rights upheld.
Here are the facts. If you put aftermarket equiptment on your car that GM doesn't make and warrenty be prepared to fight for you life to get your warrenty honored. No, technically an intake doesn't void your warrenty except for on your intake. The thing is something like an intake can cause a domino effect. As said earlier if your filter is improperly oiled you will get oil on your MAF. Also an intake can cause your car to run lean which can be seen by a trained eye. Especially if they are pulling info from your computer. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the computer logs certain data points which would show a lean condition. Also a CAI can suck in water and if you do that your warrenty is gone. Think about it. Why should the dealer fix your car for free because you drove through water with a part not recommended by them?
So basically what I am saying is expect your warrenty to be voided. Maybe it's not legal but the dealership is going to try it. They are betting that you don't know about the Warrenty Act and if you do they are willing to bet you aren't going to hire a lawyer to fight them over it. In many cases it wouldn't even make sense. Let's say you need a new MAF, the cost of the lawyer is going to be equal or greater then that. You also have to realize that the mechanics at the dealership are trained proffesionals. This means chances are even if your intake didn't cause the malfunction they will be able to find any anomolies that are caused by the intake and somehow trace it back to the problem you are having.
Everyone here has this tough guy stance that "they have to honor your warrenty". Well no they don't because while from our point of view the burden of proof is on them to find how your intake voided the warrenty really the burden of proof is on us to prove it didn't. That's hard to do when they are the ones with the car apart in their shop. Just be forwarned that if you replace your intake you may run into problems with the warrenty. Be prepared for that because it's going to be a fight to have your rights upheld.
if you have this problem, don't sweat it... just take it to another dealership...
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