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Old 09-13-2005, 02:59 PM
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jbp vs. gm cam gears

technically, which are better... jbp is cheaper although not yet available, however gm has been out for a while.
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Kind of hard to get much better than the GM stuff. I'd just go with the GM cams. I bet a nice set of cams would really wake these cars up.
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Yes i totally agree and i dont know if this is true or just a rumor but i heard that GM parts fall under our warranty.
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if there's a warranty concern, then i'll definately go with the GM gears... but if jbp is a better piece. i'd go with that.
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Are you guys talking cams or cam gears (title says gears, but sounds like some of you are talking cams)? If cams, whats the duration?
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ok, ive got a hole burning in my pocket and im biting the bullet and getting the 2.0L cams and gears from jbp. 2 week wait time!

i also am going to do the air box mod and see what I can get out of it first by dynoing the car and then see what the cams and gears will do optimumly (sp?)... wish me luck.
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Cams were one of the best mods I have done to the Evo. It really opened up the top end of the car.

I would imagine it would do the same for you guys. What is the duration you are looking at getting?
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Whats the easiest way to find these part #'s? Are they just on the GM site where they sell the Crate engines?
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Originally Posted by Chevypowered
Whats the easiest way to find these part #'s? Are they just on the GM site where they sell the Crate engines?
they are on the jbodyperformance.com website under cobalt. i dont think GM has cams out yet for the 2.0L.
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thanks
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Aren't the comp cam cams cheaper? I read somewhere on here they were around $480.
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I have cams and gears. The GM gears arern't that great for tuning as the etchings are very vague and not laser etched like typical AEM gears. I'd stay away from cams for Ecotecs, I had JBP cams in my Ecotec and nothing but problems and no gains.
The vacumm went in the toilet, it idled like **** and I had codes for the longest time. I went back to stockers. I dunno if its in my siggy, I 'm a newb, I have a Ecotec Grand Am with the RSM SC.

I'm looking at getting a Saturn IRL or Cobalt SS SC in the next 6 months or so.
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Originally Posted by 02eco
I have cams and gears. The GM gears arern't that great for tuning as the etchings are very vague and not laser etched like typical AEM gears. I'd stay away from cams for Ecotecs, I had JBP cams in my Ecotec and nothing but problems and no gains.
The vacumm went in the toilet, it idled like **** and I had codes for the longest time. I went back to stockers. I dunno if its in my siggy, I 'm a newb, I have a Ecotec Grand Am with the RSM SC.

I'm looking at getting a Saturn IRL or Cobalt SS SC in the next 6 months or so.
everyone complains about cams for the ecotec, no matter which company. i've heard the crane cams only put out like 3hp!! i already put my money down, so I hope jbp's new grind works.

what about the jbp gears? any better than GM?...
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what about the jbp gears? any better than GM?...
They are the GM gears, at least when I bought mine from JBP. Good luck witrh the cams.
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Originally Posted by spooler
everyone complains about cams for the ecotec, no matter which company. i've heard the crane cams only put out like 3hp!! i already put my money down, so I hope jbp's new grind works.

what about the jbp gears? any better than GM?...
Is there people upgrading cams without getting the head ported ?
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JBP uses the GM Cam Gears...
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Originally Posted by Jmc007
Is there people upgrading cams without getting the head ported ?
why would you have to port the head?
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Originally Posted by NJHK
JBP uses the GM Cam Gears...
Try again.


JP0889 - JBP ECOTEC Precision Adjustable Timing Gears
Price: [$467.5 (US$453.48)]
JBP Introduces the first ever adjustable timing set for the ECOTEC. With the background knowledge of the ECOTEC engine and cam gear technology, we supercede the GM adjustable cam gears by offering a pair of gears made out substantially better materials, 6160 Aircraft Grade aluminum and chromolly steel gear-teeth. Our degree dial is much more accurate and legible than the GM adjustable gears and we use a higher grade locking bolts. Best of all, these fit both the 2.0L Supercharged/2.2/2.4L ECOTEC N/A engines. The best eye turner is the price and looks of our gears. We come in way under price in comparision to the product versus
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Originally Posted by Johnny1Nut
Try again.


JP0889 - JBP ECOTEC Precision Adjustable Timing Gears
Price: [$467.5 (US$453.48)]
JBP Introduces the first ever adjustable timing set for the ECOTEC. With the background knowledge of the ECOTEC engine and cam gear technology, we supercede the GM adjustable cam gears by offering a pair of gears made out substantially better materials, 6160 Aircraft Grade aluminum and chromolly steel gear-teeth. Our degree dial is much more accurate and legible than the GM adjustable gears and we use a higher grade locking bolts. Best of all, these fit both the 2.0L Supercharged/2.2/2.4L ECOTEC N/A engines. The best eye turner is the price and looks of our gears. We come in way under price in comparision to the product versus
I was just 0wn3d

Sorry I haven't been on their site in forever but I remember for the L61s they were using the GM Cam Gears.

I guess thats what I get for assuming...****.
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Originally Posted by g5mike
why would you have to port the head?
For the same reason yours is ported ! LOL
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Originally Posted by Jmc007
For the same reason yours is ported ! LOL
i had mine ported cause i dumped the valvetrain,so instead of staying stock, I had a performance valvetrain and head job done.You dont have to do the head job, My valvetrain and head with labour came out to I think 2200.00
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Did you notice a big difference with porting the head and the valvetrain?
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Originally Posted by whitted2268
Did you notice a big difference with porting the head and the valvetrain?
The only thing you get out of the valvetrain is the ability to run a bigger shot and a little added protection if you run lean.As for the head,it really improved the flow,allowed the car to open up a little accomadating the cams+ giving more torque and hp
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So what kind of hp gains can you expect from a set of performace set of cams i was thinking that maybe with stage 2 and cams i can reach a good amount of hp so what does everyone think just curious
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