Just bought an aftermarket SS
02-29-2008, 12:13 PM
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As for a cat, this car doesn't have one. It has a resonator and a muffler, the rest is straight pipe. As I said about the pulley, I couldn't see any markings on it, so I was thinking maybe it was installed so the markings were facing the supercharger. I never took one of this type of S/C, so I don't know if they can only go on one way. Thanks for the A/F numbers and timing, thats what I was looking for. I'm running 93 octane in it now, but I'm not feeling any detonation or knock. Does the PCM automatically retard timing if the octane isn't there? As for cooling, I did notice a couple heat exchangers mounted on the front of the car. How many are there from the factory? I didn't study it, but just looked it over when I was checking out the car in the dealership. If I remember correctly there is 3 or 4. Take out 2 for the radiator and A/C condenser. Is there a separate one for oil? Is there a factory charge cooler heat exchanger?
Edit: It has the factory boost gauge which reads up to 20, and thats where it stops. Does the gauge go further than the readings to show over 20, or does it just stop at 20?
Edit: It has the factory boost gauge which reads up to 20, and thats where it stops. Does the gauge go further than the readings to show over 20, or does it just stop at 20?
1st is the a/c condensor, 2nd is the h/e 3rd is the rad.
Pullies can only be installed one way.
you really won't feel any detonation in these cars, you can feel them drop in power though.
The computer will automatically reduce timing if it detects Knock and will split timing from the low octane map and high octane map til it is happy. Unfortunately on some tunes I've seen the low octane map actually higher than the high octane one and that will ultimately lead to a destroyed piston.
The gauge will swing past 20, but only accurately reads to 20 psi (well as accurate as a factory gauge can be)
but as area said, upgrade the cooling if possible. Gm makes a 2 pass cap for the intake mounted laminova cores which will help significantly with cooling. Upgrading to a front mounted H/E (larger surface area and capacity) helps a lot too, along with the gm option B kit which includes a larger resevior for the h/e coolant. You should be good to go. also methanol injection is a great way to prevent KR and drop your intake temps even more. Also with the added bonus of upping your octane level to over 100 with 93.
02-29-2008, 01:30 PM
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If I got a heat exchanger I would probably go with something custom that I'd fab up. I'm not big on the whole "prefabbed" kits. I use methanol injection in my eclipse, and would rather not have to check the reservoir every week in a daily driver. I have a bigger problem now though. The insurance company that I'm using lied to me and told me a different quote before I bought the car. I just got the insurance the new quote is 2800 a year. What do you guys pay a year?
02-29-2008, 02:23 PM
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I think I'll just take out a personal loan to pay the car off, then just get pdl pd. Mine is higher because I rolled my 99 ranger a couple months after I got my license. (lol)
02-29-2008, 02:28 PM
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You know thats just the thing, I'm not sure how they are supposed to run. It has a set of Geforce T/A KDW's, and under boost, first and second gear are pretty much useless. With my other car being AWD, I can't compare "Seat of the pants," because I'm just blowing smoke. If it was racing season I could just mount some slicks on and take it the strip, but seeing as theres snow all around me this time of the year I can't.
Edit: It's just a daily driver, so if it doesn't run as fast as it could, it's not that big of a deal for me. Gas mileage is though. Driving conservatively, I go through about a tank a week. Is this normal? Also, the scan gauge says I'm getting around 24-33 mpg just cruising. Does the gauge take parameters and compare them to a stock car's parameters and calculate that way? Or does it calculate with accommodation for modified cars? I'm just curious how accurate it is.
Edit: It's just a daily driver, so if it doesn't run as fast as it could, it's not that big of a deal for me. Gas mileage is though. Driving conservatively, I go through about a tank a week. Is this normal? Also, the scan gauge says I'm getting around 24-33 mpg just cruising. Does the gauge take parameters and compare them to a stock car's parameters and calculate that way? Or does it calculate with accommodation for modified cars? I'm just curious how accurate it is.
02-29-2008, 06:08 PM
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I agree. It shoudl idle like stock. If it has a pulse like a heartbeat then it has tables most likely based off the Intense tunes (kaboom), And with 60# it's okay to idle a little higher. Most likely it idles that high to smooth out the vibrations from the solid mounts.
WOT in 1st gear will result in breaking your driver's side axle. Usually breaks in the wheels side, not the tranny side. My SS was useless below 40mph, and even then it was marginally tractional until top of 2nd gear.
WOT in 1st gear will result in breaking your driver's side axle. Usually breaks in the wheels side, not the tranny side. My SS was useless below 40mph, and even then it was marginally tractional until top of 2nd gear.
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02-29-2008, 06:33 PM
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Well what is this. Can't GM do anything right? They sell us a car where the power steering can go out in under 5,000 miles without a warranty. They sell us a supercharged car where they will not replace supercharger parts because "it went out of production" when lemon laws mandate 10 years. They have cars turn headlights on in the day automatically, where the only reason for headlights on were motorcycles. Todays drivers have become desensitized because of this, and won't see a normal car without headlights on. And no one will see a motorycycle now either because of this. Now they sell us a performance car where the axles can't even hold the power?
What else would you expect from a company that followed a survey of electric cars to see how people liked them in California. When they found out people loved them so much, they bought them all....and crushed them. They went after the battery inventor who lived near detroit (his battery gave a range of 300 miles, and only took 15 minutes to recharge) and buy the patent to prevent further development of the electric cars. Then they sold the electric car technology to the oil star Texaco. What is this? I thought monopolies were illegal in free market societies? No wonder this company lost billions of dollars in revenue last year. They suck.
What else would you expect from a company that followed a survey of electric cars to see how people liked them in California. When they found out people loved them so much, they bought them all....and crushed them. They went after the battery inventor who lived near detroit (his battery gave a range of 300 miles, and only took 15 minutes to recharge) and buy the patent to prevent further development of the electric cars. Then they sold the electric car technology to the oil star Texaco. What is this? I thought monopolies were illegal in free market societies? No wonder this company lost billions of dollars in revenue last year. They suck.
02-29-2008, 06:52 PM
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lol. What do you mean not much has changed? The fact that 1989 Mitsubishi drivetrains handle 500hp stock? Anyways, I'm not going to go there. I'm not here to argue about who makes a better car. I'm here to learn about the car I just bought, and how to make it better. The stock halfshaft thing just kind of caught me off guard.
02-29-2008, 08:19 PM
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I'm hoping to get a picture of both of them side by side. I have a picture of the gsx in my vbgarage right now. In my last post it kind of looks like I came off mad or defensive. I wasn't, I was actually laughing, but I had to type in a hurry because I was on my way out the door.
03-01-2008, 11:19 AM
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After some more research, the car has an Ingalls engine damper, and poly motormounts. I'm wondering if he put this kind of money in the car to help it launch, do you think he upgraded the half-shafts too?
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If he didnt already , I would change the front and rear trans mounts and LCA bushings to poly as well . Just the solid engine mount helped in my car , but the trans mounts made the bigger difference . If u dont minds the vibes , it feels so much better driving with all the bubble gum soft mounts out of there . I took the Ingall brace off as I didnt need it with all the mounts done .
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I'll have to look to see if he did the rear trans mount and bushings. If i remember correctly the front one was stock. But do you think with the damper/mounts, and the 20 lbs of boost that he already snapped a front half-shaft and replaced it? Is there anyway to differentiate between the two?
03-07-2008, 02:07 PM
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I know it may be hard to tell, but is this a stock heat exchanger or an aftermarket one? I can't seem to find any good pictures at this angle of a stock one to compare.
