LSJ Sparkplug Question
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LSJ Sparkplug Question
I was wondering what the best plug out there is for the LSJ. I am mildly modded with just the gmpp exhaust right now with the possibility of a intake at some point. Also I may get the gm stage kit as well.
Now on crateengine depot they have ACDELCO plugs Ecotec 2.0 LSJ Spark Plugs 41-106 12610767 - Crate Engine Depot
But i heard the NGK plugs are great and dont mind getting them either
NGK Iridium Spark Plugs 05-07 Cobalt SS - 05-07 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Spark Plugs
So whats the best plugs and gap for my car. Basically I am getting new plugs for preventative maintenance. Going to hit 75k shortly.
Now on crateengine depot they have ACDELCO plugs Ecotec 2.0 LSJ Spark Plugs 41-106 12610767 - Crate Engine Depot
But i heard the NGK plugs are great and dont mind getting them either
NGK Iridium Spark Plugs 05-07 Cobalt SS - 05-07 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Spark Plugs
So whats the best plugs and gap for my car. Basically I am getting new plugs for preventative maintenance. Going to hit 75k shortly.
Last edited by killianss; 01-12-2011 at 07:54 PM.
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#9
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The ACdelco plugs sold on CED are the stock iridium plugs that came in most 07's (05' & 06' came with platniums). They are made by NGK by the way.
Yeah, that gap is no good for the LSJ.
Last edited by Staged07SS; 01-13-2011 at 07:26 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#10
From my personal experience the iridium plugs are crap in these cars. Also, people need to be changing there spark plugs VERY often, these cars eat them up like no other. I change mine with every oil change aka every 3k miles. From the factory these cars run EXTREMELY rich, almost dangerously rich. Untuned vehicles especially will notice spark plugs wearing out quickly due to extreme cyl temps and over fueling.
Personally I feel that the ngk bkr7e's work very well in most cars, there is also an autolite 3922 I believe is the number that I haven't had to much issues with. As for gapping most people run between .032 and .035, it just depends on the pulley range you have.
This information is for people running on 93 octane, if you are running on e85 you DO NOT want to run a 1 step colder plug. STOCK HEAT RANGE AND HIGHER FOR E85!
Personally I feel that the ngk bkr7e's work very well in most cars, there is also an autolite 3922 I believe is the number that I haven't had to much issues with. As for gapping most people run between .032 and .035, it just depends on the pulley range you have.
This information is for people running on 93 octane, if you are running on e85 you DO NOT want to run a 1 step colder plug. STOCK HEAT RANGE AND HIGHER FOR E85!
#11
these cars don't run rich if it's tuned properly... that happens with canned tunes and mods with no tunes. think my plugs have been in for 2-3 years through a ottp stage 2, a TVS setup and now a turbo setup, and I have never once pulled a plug and seen excessive carbon.
#12
I said "From the factory these cars run EXTREMELY rich, almost dangerously rich. Untuned vehicles especially will notice spark plugs wearing out quickly due to extreme cyl temps and over fueling."
Meaning anything that is not properly setup is running very rich. Everyone who has had dyno time with stage 2 cars or factory tuned cars have seen the 10 afr that they leave behind. These types of tunes should be changing there plugs more often then leaned out cars in the mid to high 11s / low 12s.
I still change my plugs every time I change my oil even though I have a proper running tvs setup just because they are very cheap and only take a short amount of time to install.
Meaning anything that is not properly setup is running very rich. Everyone who has had dyno time with stage 2 cars or factory tuned cars have seen the 10 afr that they leave behind. These types of tunes should be changing there plugs more often then leaned out cars in the mid to high 11s / low 12s.
I still change my plugs every time I change my oil even though I have a proper running tvs setup just because they are very cheap and only take a short amount of time to install.
#14
I said "From the factory these cars run EXTREMELY rich, almost dangerously rich. Untuned vehicles especially will notice spark plugs wearing out quickly due to extreme cyl temps and over fueling."
Meaning anything that is not properly setup is running very rich. Everyone who has had dyno time with stage 2 cars or factory tuned cars have seen the 10 afr that they leave behind. These types of tunes should be changing there plugs more often then leaned out cars in the mid to high 11s / low 12s.
I still change my plugs every time I change my oil even though I have a proper running tvs setup just because they are very cheap and only take a short amount of time to install.
Meaning anything that is not properly setup is running very rich. Everyone who has had dyno time with stage 2 cars or factory tuned cars have seen the 10 afr that they leave behind. These types of tunes should be changing there plugs more often then leaned out cars in the mid to high 11s / low 12s.
I still change my plugs every time I change my oil even though I have a proper running tvs setup just because they are very cheap and only take a short amount of time to install.
#15
The stock LSJ plug gap varies, but mine came from the factory set at 0.035". I have mine set at 0.032" now due to experiencing some spark blowout. I didnt notice spark blowout until i changed blowers and went to a smaller pulley. I ran my stock gap all the way to a 2.9 w/o any issues.
The ACdelco plugs sold on CED are the stock iridium plugs that came in most 07's (05' & 06' came with platniums). They are made by NGK by the way.
Yeah, that gap is no good for the LSJ.
The ACdelco plugs sold on CED are the stock iridium plugs that came in most 07's (05' & 06' came with platniums). They are made by NGK by the way.
Yeah, that gap is no good for the LSJ.
They tell me to check my Power Steering Fluid weekly, or every 250 miles,
They tell me to turn in my rear brake caliper with needle nose pliers,
They tell me to change my oil filter and oil every 3,000 miles,
They tell me to set my spark plug gap to 0.042"....
Currently I'm running at 0.040" spark plug gap, as recommended by my tuner for the setup that I have. I've had this setup for slightly over a year with no problems.
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I'm starting to loose faith in those Chilton's and Haynes' manuals....
They tell me to check my Power Steering Fluid weekly, or every 250 miles,
They tell me to turn in my rear brake caliper with needle nose pliers,
They tell me to change my oil filter and oil every 3,000 miles,
They tell me to set my spark plug gap to 0.042"....
Currently I'm running at 0.040" spark plug gap, as recommended by my tuner for the setup that I have. I've had this setup for slightly over a year with no problems.
They tell me to check my Power Steering Fluid weekly, or every 250 miles,
They tell me to turn in my rear brake caliper with needle nose pliers,
They tell me to change my oil filter and oil every 3,000 miles,
They tell me to set my spark plug gap to 0.042"....
Currently I'm running at 0.040" spark plug gap, as recommended by my tuner for the setup that I have. I've had this setup for slightly over a year with no problems.
#17
#18
I'm starting to loose faith in those Chilton's and Haynes' manuals....
They tell me to check my Power Steering Fluid weekly, or every 250 miles,
They tell me to turn in my rear brake caliper with needle nose pliers,
They tell me to change my oil filter and oil every 3,000 miles,
They tell me to set my spark plug gap to 0.042"....
Currently I'm running at 0.040" spark plug gap, as recommended by my tuner for the setup that I have. I've had this setup for slightly over a year with no problems.
They tell me to check my Power Steering Fluid weekly, or every 250 miles,
They tell me to turn in my rear brake caliper with needle nose pliers,
They tell me to change my oil filter and oil every 3,000 miles,
They tell me to set my spark plug gap to 0.042"....
Currently I'm running at 0.040" spark plug gap, as recommended by my tuner for the setup that I have. I've had this setup for slightly over a year with no problems.
#19
You can run any injector you want, but keeping the same air to fuel ratio as stock/gm stage 2 has it you are still going to run way way way to rich.
#20
Also as staged07ss has said most modified cobalts running 2.8 and smaller pulleys generally need to lower there spark plug gap down into the .035 range as to not have spark blow out. If you have an interceptor check it and see how many misfires you are having while at wide open throttle, if you have a lot then re-gap them or replace and then re-gap them.
#21
i run the bkr8e coppers which are 2 steps colder than stock and 1 step colder than the bkr7e's.
im was running the bkr8eix iridiums and after 8 months i fouled them out on a 33 gap, i put the bkr8e's in half way through the season and they were fine at a 34gap but now im experiencing blowout at 6200ish rpm. im going to pull them and regap to 32 if they arent fouled.
for the OP's car i would just run the stock heat index and maybe a slightly tighter gap, like 38 or something. mine came stock at 40.
hope this helps.
im was running the bkr8eix iridiums and after 8 months i fouled them out on a 33 gap, i put the bkr8e's in half way through the season and they were fine at a 34gap but now im experiencing blowout at 6200ish rpm. im going to pull them and regap to 32 if they arent fouled.
for the OP's car i would just run the stock heat index and maybe a slightly tighter gap, like 38 or something. mine came stock at 40.
hope this helps.
#22
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Posts: 14,331
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From: NEPA
i run the bkr8e coppers which are 2 steps colder than stock and 1 step colder than the bkr7e's.
im was running the bkr8eix iridiums and after 8 months i fouled them out on a 33 gap, i put the bkr8e's in half way through the season and they were fine at a 34gap but now im experiencing blowout at 6200ish rpm. im going to pull them and regap to 32 if they arent fouled.
for the OP's car i would just run the stock heat index and maybe a slightly tighter gap, like 38 or something. mine came stock at 40.
hope this helps.
im was running the bkr8eix iridiums and after 8 months i fouled them out on a 33 gap, i put the bkr8e's in half way through the season and they were fine at a 34gap but now im experiencing blowout at 6200ish rpm. im going to pull them and regap to 32 if they arent fouled.
for the OP's car i would just run the stock heat index and maybe a slightly tighter gap, like 38 or something. mine came stock at 40.
hope this helps.
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From: NEPA
Look at the color of your plugs. That is the best indication of heat range.
A proper heat range plug in a healthy engine should be a light tan to brownish grey color.
#25
good, mine are in the tan area and look alright. I'm using the ngk 7's they're v-power. I may have spark blowout, though, they're gapped at .038 you're not supposed to gap these things, I heard. I may do it anyways and lower it down to about .034