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Old 12-03-2013, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
that's because your 16 thinks its cool and have no clue that the fastest and most consistant cars are auto and you cant shift faster then an auto
I'm not 16, but ok. Unless I'm trying to go fast in a straight line, I'll stay with a stick. Automatics are boring otherwise.
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Ok first off, im with Powell that these cars dont need anymore gears for street or track. For me, gas mileage and cruising rpms isnt a concern as it is not DD, so i would do 4.45 instead of F40 any day.
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I am looking forward to getting my 445 in my car
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I thought 4.45s were extinct
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I didn't say they don't fail, I said it was less common. How did you break yours
Going 35 mph shifting from 2nd to third at a stop light, I wish I could say I was "granny shifting and not double clutching" like I should
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I thought 4.45s were extinct
Saturn L series from 02 to 04(I think the years are correct) 4cyl 5 speed was an f35 with a 445 final drive that is what my 445 came out of that I got from mongo
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i found one of these trannys but im not in the market for the gears at this time .... could be a gold mine though if i had them
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they are tough to find. but not impossible.
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
Saturn L series from 02 to 04(I think the years are correct) 4cyl 5 speed was an f35 with a 445 final drive that is what my 445 came out of that I got from mongo
Did not know that, there are actually a couple in my area junkyards that have manual trans for that year/car around the 300-500 mark. Some low mileage ones too.
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Nothing else is worth it but if you scored a trans for around 200 youd be set
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
Did not know that, there are actually a couple in my area junkyards that have manual trans for that year/car around the 300-500 mark. Some low mileage ones too.
look at the tag to make sure its a 445

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Nothing else is worth it but if you scored a trans for around 200 youd be set
you can get the complete trans and have a few spare parts
Old 12-03-2013, 02:16 PM
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I just can't see driving anything but a stick on the street.
Agreed. Standard rocks for daily driving. I couldn't see myself driving an auto in the winter.

Be proud of bmartz for actually knowing how to drive standard for his generation. I am a firm believer standard drivers pay more attention to driving than auto drivers do.
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To each his own. If my car was auto, it would maybe get driven once a month, maybe. I just don't enjoy an auto trans. Also, for me, my car only goes to the track once a year. Sure it would be faster on the street too, but I would not enjoy it near as much. I purchased the F40, but the 4.45 is a nice option as well. My friend has CMillers old 4.45 in his LNF and it is a great setup.
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I got a spare Lnf 3.82 LSD trans sitting in my basement. Waiting to see when my lsj trans to go. I don't see it going but I got a backup.
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
did it taste good
No, was a little bit metallic and trans fluid numbs your mouth pretty fiercely. lol

I wont ever go auto trans, if I ever get to the point where I cant keep manual transmissions in the car, Ill find a way to front the money to have a dog gear transmission built. Evos and DSMs have been using them for years and years now, they can pick them up for about $5k. Wish our market would have expanded that far by now but it hasnt.
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What the inquiring minds want to know is what is the most torque a 4.05 seen from a daily driven lsj
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Originally Posted by Shanedude
Agreed. Standard rocks for daily driving. I couldn't see myself driving an auto in the winter.

Be proud of bmartz for actually knowing how to drive standard for his generation. I am a firm believer standard drivers pay more attention to driving than auto drivers do.
Driving stick is for sure a dying breed.

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To each his own. If my car was auto, it would maybe get driven once a month, maybe. I just don't enjoy an auto trans. Also, for me, my car only goes to the track once a year. Sure it would be faster on the street too, but I would not enjoy it near as much. I purchased the F40, but the 4.45 is a nice option as well. My friend has CMillers old 4.45 in his LNF and it is a great setup.
Exactly how I feel, slamming gears is just too much fun.

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I got a spare Lnf 3.82 LSD trans sitting in my basement. Waiting to see when my lsj trans to go. I don't see it going but I got a backup.
I figured that thing was long gone by now.
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auto is faster and driving a stick in not dying
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Maybe not dieing if you're out in farmsville. But I think less people know how to drive stick aswell as manufacturers making less standard less of an option. Maybe there is small surges tearly but in the overall scheme auto will take over with technology growing.

Not sure what it's like in China maybe their car surge has tons of people using stick.
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Has anyone seen or done an F23 trans swap? My friend Kevin (Kennyspec on here) did it after chewing through a few 3rd gears with his Lsj turbo. But didn't use it for long before his meth quit and the motor popped. So he gave up and bought a new Camaro. The gearing is considerably lower than an F35 trans.
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there is a guy on gmsc that did it
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Ya I wish Kennyspec didn't give up on his car after his motor blew to test this trans further. In theory it seems like it would be a good trans to run.
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its supposed to be stronger also
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Auto = man card revoked.

Go with a cryo'd F40 and a few upgraded trans parts if you can dish out the money. Spending it once on the right thing is a hell of a lot better than going through a few F35's unless you have good luck with them. I heard that 6th gear is pretty great to have too in the F40.

And all this stuff about auto's shifting faster is pretty true. Although if you're good at it and, not to sound like a douche, even remotely comparable to how quickly someone like myself can shift then you shouldn't have a problem hanging with the auto shifting cobalts for the most part. Never going to be as smooth with a manual though but why take the fun out of a car with an auto? I think this would be a different conversation if you're talking paddle shifters vs manual. The auto's in the Cobalts I have driven weren't that great..

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Old 12-04-2013, 08:43 AM
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You've never driven one with a built trans^
I don't know the guys name but I've seen the car floating around a few times. It's a cavy that has a ton of custom fab work and he's making it into a drag car. I asked him what trans he is running and he said f23..


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