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Old 03-05-2006 | 03:55 PM
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manuel boost controller

does any one here know how to install a manuel boost controller the right way for the suppercharger because or the to nipples that come off the wastegate ar confusing the hell out of me. i got it hooked up and got more boost then wat i had before i just dont understand y i cant boost any higher then 15.5. i bypassed the solinoied just need help please if anyone knows how to !!!!!
Old 03-05-2006 | 04:36 PM
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I'd say


but you obviously can't spell so here....Manual Boost Controller Info
Old 03-05-2006 | 04:45 PM
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Boost Controllers are for "Turbo Wastegates" MANDINGO...

Not Superchargers.

Boost and Pulleys are your answer.

Remember to bypass the bypass
Old 03-05-2006 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Boost Controllers are for "Turbo Wastegates" MANDINGO...

Not Superchargers.

Boost and Pulleys are your answer.

Remember to bypass the bypass
Brian, wtf does mandingo have to do with this post..??
Old 03-05-2006 | 05:03 PM
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here you go.

http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.m...ct_Code=CB3003

Old 03-05-2006 | 05:13 PM
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Brian, wtf does mandingo have to do with this post..??
Very Loose Slang..

"MAN"-dingo...

Like Man, Dude, Hommie..
Old 03-05-2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt30
here you go.

I just Shot in my Pants..
Old 03-05-2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Very Loose Slang..

"MAN"-dingo...

Like Man, Dude, Hommie..
I forget English isn't your first language....
Old 03-05-2006 | 06:16 PM
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What the Hell is a MANDINGO... MANDINGO....
Old 03-05-2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
What the Hell is a MANDINGO... MANDINGO....
there are many meanings....depends on where your at and the context.
one meaning deals with western africa and the people, another is a book, one is an african **** star http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=1153229
Old 03-05-2006 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Boost Controllers are for "Turbo Wastegates" MANDINGO...

Not Superchargers.

Boost and Pulleys are your answer.

Remember to bypass the bypass

I dunno about that. Look at the link in the second post. It seems that with our boost bypass system, you can use a boost controller.
Old 03-05-2006 | 06:43 PM
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i fixed the postion and ran it like the link said and can controlle boost from 0-15 thats untill u get the smaller pully kit witch will boost u up to 20-22 and u can cantrolle it at that stage also. thanks for the link

o yea does anyone know wat to use to pull the wing oof the trunk i undid the bolts but there is like double sided tape wat can i use to remove the tape
Old 03-05-2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 far gone
i fixed the postion and ran it like the link said and can controlle boost from 0-15 thats untill u get the smaller pully kit witch will boost u up to 20-22 and u can cantrolle it at that stage also. thanks for the link

o yea does anyone know wat to use to pull the wing oof the trunk i undid the bolts but there is like double sided tape wat can i use to remove the tape
again
Old 03-05-2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
I dunno about that. Look at the link in the second post. It seems that with our boost bypass system, you can use a boost controller.
You would still have to use a smaller pulley...

So The point of the Boost controller is NOT required.
Old 03-05-2006 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc
there are many meanings....depends on where your at and the context.
one meaning deals with western africa and the people, another is a book, one is an african **** star http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=1153229
lol, ill leave it at that.
Old 03-05-2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
You would still have to use a smaller pulley...

So The point of the Boost controller is NOT required.
I think what I meant was that you can put on a smaller pulley, and then turn it down for daily driving, and turn it up for racing. All without having to constantly change pulleys.
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
I think what I meant was that you can put on a smaller pulley, and then turn it down for daily driving, and turn it up for racing. All without having to constantly change pulleys.
Ok, But you are still overdriving the SC daily... It will fail much sooner.

Boost is controlled by your foot, just like on a turbo. You could set it to 30 PSI and it would never get there unless you mashed the gas..
Old 03-05-2006 | 09:37 PM
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Old 03-06-2006 | 06:26 AM
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I have an Idea for this thread.

A Boost Controller is for Turbo.
A Blow Off Valve is for Turbo.

The reason a turbo has a wastegate is because there is no way to stop the turbine from overspooling without controlling the Hot side of the turbine. Once Max boost has been reached, the wastegate dumps some exhaust away from the turbine to maintain its speed. The MBC and EBC are used to control the wastegate.

Now on a SC car, you don't have to worry about this because you are limited by the pulley. Here is the thing... the way the MBC is being hooked up here does allow you to reduce the pressure that your car will get without it. It works the opposite way that it does on a turbo.

Normally on a turbo, the Wastegate spring is set to a certain PSI and a Controller allows to go higher by leaking some of the wastegate supply line out.

So on the SC now we are "Leaking" the signal that will open the By-Pass to compensate for the smaller Pulley?

The EBC will not work the way you plan, the readout will not be useful because it's not hooked into the system to a wastegate. The By-Pass cylinder isn’t a wastegate. It's does the opposite to a wastegate, It's basically functioning like a Turbo By-Pass valve to decompress the Supercharger when not required..

EBC Will Not Work on a SC as it is set up to alter a WASTEGATE.

MBC Not Required if You have a stock Pulley.
MBC Will only lower your boost on a SC Car
MBC Will Only Raise your boost on a Turbo Car.
Old 03-06-2006 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Ok, But you are still overdriving the SC daily... It will fail much sooner.

Boost is controlled by your foot, just like on a turbo. You could set it to 30 PSI and it would never get there unless you mashed the gas..
Actually, you don't really have to worry about these superchargers failing too early. People have been doing over 20,000 RPM on the M112 blower for a while, without failure, and the "limit" is said to be 14,000.

In my cobra, a big problem I have is daily driving. Getting boost so quickly, on street tires, and even in the rain is not a good thing. If I could turn down the boost to take it easy on my clutch and tires, I definitely would, but it's just too much of a pain to swap out pullies. This is why I'm skeptical about getting pullied on the cobalt. I'm afraid I'll just have crazy wheelhop if the conditions aren't ideal. If I could turn down the boost, I'd be very happy.
Old 03-06-2006 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
Actually, you don't really have to worry about these superchargers failing too early. People have been doing over 20,000 RPM on the M112 blower for a while, without failure, and the "limit" is said to be 14,000.

In my cobra, a big problem I have is daily driving. Getting boost so quickly, on street tires, and even in the rain is not a good thing. If I could turn down the boost to take it easy on my clutch and tires, I definitely would, but it's just too much of a pain to swap out pullies. This is why I'm skeptical about getting pullied on the cobalt. I'm afraid I'll just have crazy wheelhop if the conditions aren't ideal. If I could turn down the boost, I'd be very happy.
I love your Cobra. Looks very nice back on the topic at hand, the manual boost controller seems like a good idea but seems too skeptical to the masses for ideal use on what we want to do.
Old 03-06-2006 | 11:21 AM
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jmc runs a boost controller on his car to keep boost down when needed and i will be doing the same this weekend.

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