meth vs heat exchanger
05-19-2009, 03:00 PM
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You do heat soak at idle becuase your h/e (containing your i/c fluid) is not getting any airflow through it to cool it down allowing temps to rise. Your blower can get heak soaked after back to back to back runs for sure.
05-19-2009, 03:08 PM
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I don't see how you can get heat soaked at idle. By the definition of heat soaking we shouldn't be able to heat soak unless our car is off, but by the definition we use I still don't think its heat soaking at idle. It's just a lack of air flow causing the iat2's to rise when were at idle. When we do back to back to back runs and then idle we are soaking in all of the heat that we created, but if we are stopping air flow causing heat to be created and then we continue to idle that seems like just a lack of air flow, i guess it could be heat soaking too though. I dont know if that made sense to anyone else but it kinda made sense to me lol. It's basically just how you look at it and what definition you are going by of "heat soaking".
Actually it does make sense that you can heat soak at idle if your idling for a very long time. Because the lack of air flow is creating heat and your just sitting there soaking up that heat because your not moving. You would have to be idling for quite some time though to raise your iat2's up a lot, and it depends on ambient temps and what type of cooling mods you and what kinda i/c pump your using. But ya I should correct myself you can heat soak while at idle.
Actually it does make sense that you can heat soak at idle if your idling for a very long time. Because the lack of air flow is creating heat and your just sitting there soaking up that heat because your not moving. You would have to be idling for quite some time though to raise your iat2's up a lot, and it depends on ambient temps and what type of cooling mods you and what kinda i/c pump your using. But ya I should correct myself you can heat soak while at idle.
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05-19-2009, 03:13 PM
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I don't see how you can get heat soaked at idle. By the definition of heat soaking we shouldn't be able to heat soak unless our car is off, but by the definition we use I still don't think its heat soaking at idle. It's just a lack of air flow causing the iat2's to rise when were at idle. When we do back to back to back runs and then idle we are soaking in all of the heat that we created, but if we are stopping air flow causing heat to be created and then we continue to idle that seems like just a lack of air flow, i guess it could be heat soaking too though. I dont know if that made sense to anyone else but it kinda made sense to me lol. It's basically just how you look at it and what definition you are going by of "heat soaking".
at idle, the intercooler pump is still running (as long as the pump is still good
) and the fans behind the radiator may or may not be running, depends on your tune. but the biggest factor in cooling down iat's via the heat exchanger is the airflow created when you start driving. you've got hpt, no? do some scanning on what i just said and see for yourself
05-19-2009, 03:16 PM
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I am a tuner so I do have hptuners, I know iat2's rise while idling I just didn't really see that as heat soaking. Generally when I think of heat soaking I think of doing hard pulls back to back and the iat2's being higher from it, and then soaking in all that heat while at idle or cruising *until temps go down again*. That is usually what I think of and most other people for that matter.
Another thing to point out then would be that NO cooling mod will help against heat soaking at idle. The heat exchanger, the dual pass end plate, meth, nothing will help when your at idle because there is no air flow.
Another thing to point out then would be that NO cooling mod will help against heat soaking at idle. The heat exchanger, the dual pass end plate, meth, nothing will help when your at idle because there is no air flow.
05-19-2009, 03:17 PM
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I am a tuner so I do have hptuners, I know iat2's rise while idling I just didn't really see that as heat soaking. Generally when I think of heat soaking I think of doing hard pulls back to back and the iat2's being higher from it, and then soaking in all that heat while at idle or cruising *until temps go down again*. That is usually what I think of and most other people for that matter.
Another thing to point out then would be that NO cooling mod will help against heat soaking at idle. The heat exchanger, the dual pass end plate, meth, nothing will help when your at idle because there is no air flow.
Another thing to point out then would be that NO cooling mod will help against heat soaking at idle. The heat exchanger, the dual pass end plate, meth, nothing will help when your at idle because there is no air flow.
a killer chiller does :P
05-19-2009, 03:23 PM
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haha good call but that mod doesn't count as it uses up all my good r34a lol.
edit: do you know by any chance how long you can run the k/c before you run outta r34a?
edit: do you know by any chance how long you can run the k/c before you run outta r34a?
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05-19-2009, 04:56 PM
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I am a tuner so I do have hptuners, I know iat2's rise while idling I just didn't really see that as heat soaking. Generally when I think of heat soaking I think of doing hard pulls back to back and the iat2's being higher from it, and then soaking in all that heat while at idle or cruising *until temps go down again*. That is usually what I think of and most other people for that matter.
Another thing to point out then would be that NO cooling mod will help against heat soaking at idle. The heat exchanger, the dual pass end plate, meth, nothing will help when your at idle because there is no air flow.
Another thing to point out then would be that NO cooling mod will help against heat soaking at idle. The heat exchanger, the dual pass end plate, meth, nothing will help when your at idle because there is no air flow.
05-20-2009, 11:16 AM
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i dont know if it's been said, but stay 2.8 or above dude... no reason for anything lower. anything lower than a 2.8 starts to cause the blower to produce more heat and god know LSJ's love heat... cooling mods or not stay 2.8!
05-20-2009, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
The devils own kit has error lights on the controller. You can also get a tank fluid level sensor and wire it up to an led light like I did.
thanks,
EDIT: fixed quoted post
05-20-2009, 11:48 AM
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Grab a tank fluid switch from ottp and then run it to an led mounted in your a pillar =D.
http://www.ottperformance.com/Meth-I...duct_info.html
Thats whatcha need mate.
http://www.ottperformance.com/Meth-I...duct_info.html
Thats whatcha need mate.
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05-20-2009, 12:39 PM
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well i know what i need but i wanna see a picture of where you installed the LED, im trying to figure out where i want it, and what looks best as well as grabs my attention the best.
thanks
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05-20-2009, 01:23 PM
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lower with pulleys on meth = torque bud.
05-20-2009, 01:27 PM
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It sure as hell does...
You would be worry about peak hp sticking with the 2.8, which is good in some conditions.
Some people like the heavy torque on the bottom end to sling themselves out of corners and pick up where everyone else is leaving off.
You would be worry about peak hp sticking with the 2.8, which is good in some conditions.
Some people like the heavy torque on the bottom end to sling themselves out of corners and pick up where everyone else is leaving off.