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Old 06-23-2010, 09:37 PM
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Minimum to reduce engine movement

Ive broken the flex section on two stock down pipes and i thought switching to an aftermarket dp would be enough to prevent this from happening again. Apparently not according to the disclaimer I just saw on zzp's website. I don't have an abundance of money to spend right now so I'm wondering what would you guys do to prevent this from happening again? Would ottp's rotated engine mount be enough. It says it prevents wheel hop by aligning the axels but does it also keep the engine from moving like a solid mount would? I don't want additional cabin vibes. What should I get to prevent breaking another flex pipe and reduce engine movement and wheel hop?
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All those mods, and nothing for the mounts? Dude, you're lucky you haven't broken the tranny yet. No disrespect, but if you want a quick fix that's cheap, get the 50 dollar inserts from TTR. It'll work until you can afford something a little more comfortable.
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Ingalls TD set to the stiffest setting works for my ZZP setup.

The earlier ZZP downpipes broke because their welder didn't use common sense and tack welded the flex to the pipe. I bought their interlocking flex and welded the whole thing on like it's meant to be installed and have had no problems with my setup.
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I dunno if its because i got different tires or just take it easy on launches but I haven't actually hopped my wheels in forever which is why I haven't taken any initiative to get traction mods. Would solid upper engine mount be enough?

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Old 06-23-2010, 10:08 PM
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Why would you not want one of the cheapest yet most effective (IMO, for the price) mods?

Better yet, just do a solid upper engine mount. Works better than the TD and has minimal vibes.

Solid mounts just make the car ride like ****, ask anyone who's had them (I am talking about the transmission mounts). 90% of people who install them remove them because they make the car unbearable to live with.

Also, ZZP's new downpipes supposedly were revised and no longer break. If it does break just do what I did and weld it yourself so you know it's done right and won't come apart.
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i have ttr motor and trans mount inserts in my 2.0 lsj and i cant even feel fibes anymore. motor does not move either. at all.
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
i have ttr motor and trans mount inserts in my 2.0 lsj and i cant even feel fibes anymore. motor does not move either. at all.
Exactly after a short period of time, the vibs with our products almost completely go away.
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Yeah, because they make the driver numb and/or they get used to them.

JK! Your products are ****. I actually bought my TD from you guys back in the day.
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
Yeah, because they make the driver numb and/or they get used to them.

JK! Your products are ****. I actually bought my TD from you guys back in the day.
Were you on the J-body.org back in the day? Did you have a Z24 (assuming yes, by your name?)
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i have the cheap GM TC upgraded mounts from CED, there's very little motor movement, zero vibes and i never really had wheel hop since the ottp cab's
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So do i need both trans and engine mounts or will just engine mounts be enough?
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get both mounts, they're under $100 and make a huge difference
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
get both mounts, they're under $100 and make a huge difference
Get which mounts? Theres five mounts in total. Wanna send me a link?
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TTR FTW AND ZZP my 2 fav vendors
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I have a full set of bwoody mounts(cheapest brand of mounts made) The vibes are crazy especially with the a/c on. everything including the dash vibrates.
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i have a set of stock trans mounts with the ttr bushings for sale $50 shipped

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I have a TTR Engine mount in my garage, $80 shipped and it's yours.
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Originally Posted by blackss2.0
Get which mounts? Theres five mounts in total. Wanna send me a link?
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...unts-C392.aspx
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
so those do the same for lsj's as the other companies rotated mounts?
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i was gonna say they look almost identical to rotated mounts alot cheaper too. can someone confirm this
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They are the LNF stock mounts, which are a bit more firm than the LSJ mounts...
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i was having issues with my down pipe coming loose from my pace setter header. so i got the ingalls ETD and i left it on the stiffest setting no more exhaust worries and the vibes are minimal, aswell as 1st - 2nd gear shifts feel awesome.
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Originally Posted by hotpursuit
i was having issues with my down pipe coming loose from my pace setter header. so i got the ingalls ETD and i left it on the stiffest setting no more exhaust worries and the vibes are minimal, aswell as 1st - 2nd gear shifts feel awesome.
That is the big thing with stock mounts, is the flex on downpipes cannot take it.
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agreed.., it was a pain in the ass watching my wide band lean right out every week or so at idle.., pissed me off lmao.
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
so those do the same for lsj's as the other companies rotated mounts?
they're not rotated mounts, but they are the mounts from the wheel hop kit. the design on the LSJ mounts is a flimsy X bushing and it's just not that good. you can see the TC mounts are designed like a V bushing in the direction to provide the most support


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