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Old 12-30-2012, 03:24 PM
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my 2.0 sc build need some advice

This is whut im planing

Zzp stage 3 with a 2.8 or 2.7 i dont know whitch one to get. 80# injectors

LSJ Performance Cams from zzp i need some advice on this one stage 2 or 3 will upgrade the valve turane for wich ever one i get

Full exhaust whuts a good one to get

Injin intake

E85

And posibley tvs but are the parts from stage 3 going to work on it

And a good tune

whut do you guys think i will make on this any thoghts and advice is welcom.
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E85

Stage 2 cams

**** stage 3 if your going TVS piece it together

Exhaust has been debated to death
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Zzp stage 3 with a 2.8 or 2.7 i dont know whitch one to get. 80# injectors
Get 80's. Either pully will do you fine, but will NOT work with the TVS

LSJ Performance Cams from zzp i need some advice on this one stage 2 or 3 will upgrade the valve turane for wich ever one i get
Stage 1 or 2's will do you just fine. Stage 2's WILL REQUIRE upgraded valve springs, & i'm UNSURE if the stage 1's will. If you do get cams and decide to start reving a little higher, neutral balance shafts or a balance shaft delete is recommended.

Full exhaust whuts a good one to get
whatever floats your boat man. youtube all the different brands and pick which one suits your likes the best (as far as sound quality)..

Injin intake
a lot of people have problems with these. If you're set on an Injen or you already have one then cool, that's fine. But if you have yet to order one, then get the ZZP one.

E85
YES YES YES. E85 is magic sauce

And posibley tvs but are the parts from stage 3 going to work on it
all parts will work with, except the pullies. You will have to get a new pully for the TVS. but it's only like $40 or so.. nbd

And a good tune
YES! This will make or break you, and your car, literally.

whut do you guys think i will make on this any thoghts and advice is welcom.

Hard to say. Too many factors. You're heading the right way though. but not to bash you or sound like an ass, but it also sounds like you need to do yourself some more research on the car and modding it. Hope I helped ya out some!
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I will admit i dont know a lot on these car im more a v8 guy but after driving the cobalt i was quite impresed and whunt to see whut else i can do with it any post you can recomend i should read let me know
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Read the stickies in this (LSJ) section. You'll pretty much get a whole road map of how to take your car. At the very least, an idea.
TStone answered all your questions very well though.
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your not doing a build your swapping parts out and whut is spelled what reguardless of cams chosen you will need springs
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
your not doing a build your swapping parts out and whut is spelled what reguardless of cams chosen you will need springs
Okay there ya go. You'll need to upgrade your springs no matter what. MrB is one person that knows his **** and he's someone that you'll wanna listen too.
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I completly agree with you guys on that i was planning on changing out the suspension and drive turane to support my mods after all what good will all that power do me if my suspenstion and drive turane cant handel it thanks for all the good info so far
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drivetrain not drive turane
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You won't "need" to do suspension mods due to power. Drive train mods would be mounts axels and clutch
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As far as an intake and exhaust, I love my ZZP 3" intake. I had the tsudo n1 rice blaster catback and that sounded like #^@. Im running a zzp catless 2.5" downpipe and a 2.5" zzp catback w/resonator and it sounds awesome. Good volume and no drone, no rasp at all. And i can pop flames lol
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I was actually looking at the zzp. i think that's the way I'm going to go but i don't know if i want to go cat or un cat yet in Indiana your not required to pass emission
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catless with 80's, you will pop flames. catless is also illegal regardless, but so is going fast
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by the way your not doing a build your doing some parts swapping
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
by the way your not doing a build your doing some parts swapping
U have told him that twice in this thread why do u feel the need to keep bring it up?
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Originally Posted by TStone
Zzp stage 3 with a 2.8 or 2.7 i dont know whitch one to get. 80# injectors
Get 80's. Either pully will do you fine, but will NOT work with the TVS

LSJ Performance Cams from zzp i need some advice on this one stage 2 or 3 will upgrade the valve turane for wich ever one i get
Stage 1 or 2's will do you just fine. Stage 2's WILL REQUIRE upgraded valve springs, & i'm UNSURE if the stage 1's will. If you do get cams and decide to start reving a little higher, neutral balance shafts or a balance shaft delete is recommended.

Full exhaust whuts a good one to get
whatever floats your boat man. youtube all the different brands and pick which one suits your likes the best (as far as sound quality)..

Injin intake
a lot of people have problems with these. If you're set on an Injen or you already have one then cool, that's fine. But if you have yet to order one, then get the ZZP one.

E85
YES YES YES. E85 is magic sauce

And posibley tvs but are the parts from stage 3 going to work on it
all parts will work with, except the pullies. You will have to get a new pully for the TVS. but it's only like $40 or so.. nbd

And a good tune
YES! This will make or break you, and your car, literally.

whut do you guys think i will make on this any thoghts and advice is welcom.

Hard to say. Too many factors. You're heading the right way though. but not to bash you or sound like an ass, but it also sounds like you need to do yourself some more research on the car and modding it. Hope I helped ya out some!
- 2.7 or 2.8 pulley will be fine. I personally would stick with a 2.8.

- Stage 1 cams require valve springs (I suggest Supertech springs). They have the same lift as the Stage 2 cams, but a little less duration. I just installed Stage 1 cams on my car. If you are sticking with the M62, I would go with Stage 1 or Stage 2 cams.

- Def get a full exhaust. One of the biggest bangs for your buck.

- Injen intakes do not cause issues.... although, it is not the best choice for our cars. The stock intake w/ modfied airbox and high flow filter can/will match most if not all the aftermarket shinny pipes out there. Trust me.

- Lastly, a good tune is key.

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Did you buy springs again Staged? How do you like the cams?
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Did you buy springs again Staged? How do you like the cams?
Never sold my springs.... I backed out of the sale.

I was going back and forth with selling due to needing extra money for some down payments for the wedding, but made out ok in the end.

I have everything installed. Just waiting on my cam bolts (which are arriving today).

I should have her up and running later this afternoon

I'll keep u posted.
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Originally Posted by Vander Nars
U have told him that twice in this thread why do u feel the need to keep bring it up?
why does a dog lick its *****
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Never sold my springs.... I backed out of the sale.

I was going back and forth with selling due to needing extra money for some down payments for the wedding, but made out ok in the end.

I have everything installed. Just waiting on my cam bolts (which are arriving today).

I should have her up and running later this afternoon

I'll keep u posted.
Cam bolts? Are they one time use?
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why does a dog lick its *****
obviously for the taste duh!
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Cam bolts? Are they one time use?
Yep. As per Haynes Manual & GM Spec, but people have re-used them w/o issue.

I figured since they are cheap, I should just replace them while I'm at it.
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Ok a new question that is boggling my minde witch is better the tvs or the mp90 i haven't came acrosst a thread that has stated witch one is better than the other one any one know more on this subject
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Ok a new question that is boggling my minde witch is better the tvs or the mp90 i haven't came acrosst a thread that has stated witch one is better than the other one any one know more on this subject
TVS.

It's more efficient, and is a direct bolt on.

The MP90 needs adapters and such.

The MP90 is technically a bigger blower, but uses Eatons old 3 lobe 60 degree twist technology.
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I may suggest LSJ Pheonallic Intake Manifold Spacer


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