what is your reason? You are the first one ive herd in a while with negativity in their exhaust.

 

**** poor welds, shitty flange fitment (was warped and had to be redrilled to get it to mount to the head) and the flange doesnt match the ports on the head like the ebay piece does.



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hmm... i guess those are good reasons. lol im sorry to hear about your bad experience from them but i installed my shorty header from zzp last night and i have zero complaints. why didnt you tell zzp about your problems and send it back?

 

"if you want oem quality and fitment buy oem parts" - zoomer

 

ouch... i can see your point in this case... thats a hugh chunk of change to expect anything less than oem quality...

 

Dang, I was liking the PLX, I'd probably be going UEGO tho if it adds more functionality.

 

Point taken, but this is the limits of my abilities, I am an app developer by day, I only work on cars on weekends.

Definitely wish I could do this...

Really? Invaluable advice, but I've not heard this before, is this from personal experience?

Oh, I need a new fuel pump, so that's why I'm buying the pump. The rest, may be optional as you say, thanks for the advice!

 

Great advice as well, I only got the snout plug because I hear it often is stuck in, is that perhaps operator error? He said it was seized in..

 

This has to be a troll.. No? I read that review, it seems like a roll of the dice!!!

Am I missing something here? There was a unfinished weld, and exhaust leak mentioned in the review. Not good in my books.

 

Everything mrb said.

But for just a weekend warrior I'd still add a ported head from lsjion, an ATI and some stage 3 cams

 

Nope thats what everyone says dont do the mani spacer they do usually leak and the gains arent there unfortunately

 

I have the ZZP Midlength header and downpipe, and that is not at all what mine looked like. It looked a lot better and lined up better than the eBay one you also showed. Not sure where you got that one from, but it wasn't ZZP.

 

Is that so?

 

Didnt have any problems with my ebay header, in fact i posted it in that thread. Been running great ever since and I got better performance out of it compared to the ZZP piece, but your welcome to buy whatever you want to buy, its your money.

 

stuck in? no its only torqued to 8 ft lbs, problem is its a torque socket, 9 times out of 10 it strips out.

 

this dudes gonna end up not buying **** lol

ill play my part..

you dont need cooling mods. opt b is good though

the plug may seem stuck because its steel and the blower is cast aluminum. the two different materials heat up and expand differently making it harder to untorque the bolt, just like the drain plug on the transmission. itll go with some persuasion

 

I have had my spacer on for 3+ years.... no leaks.

I bought it when they first came out and everyone was raving about them. Honestly, not sure how effective it is because I threw it on with a heat exchanger, dual pass, opt b at the same time. On a hot day (90+ degrees) my iat2 temps will get into the 140-150s after a hard pull through the top of 4th on a 2.7... they drop pretty quickly though. I'm on the E, so not to worried lol.

 

i hit 165 iat2 at the top of third daily. who needs cooling lol

 

Why would you say cooling mods arent needed when its already been proven that the dual pass and option B along with a good heat exchanger improve efficiency of the supercharger system astronomically.

 

i dont think the cost is worth the benefit. you could spend 600 on all the cooling mods or save up for a ported head and get more flow and cooling.

my iats go over 160 at the end of third gear in the hottest and most humid alabama weather. thats worse case scenario. i understand that volume is lost as air density decreases, less timing advance is available, but if you dont have the money to spend on cooling, its not such a big deal. if someone wants a 2.8" pulley or so, they should just go for it. the low end torque is worth it. will my car make the same power when iats get that high? no, but i can live with that.

 

I don't want to sound like a dick. However, in this case, this is only a fraction of what I got to spend. So I don't mind spending $600 or $1200 more, if it means a bit more performance and better cooling. I am a bit of a cooling fiend.

I thought the spacer was to prevent heat soak of the SC from touching the aluminum intake? Is that not correct? Because it seems it'd logically work for such a task..

Thanks, I guess I read a lot of information about these when they came out, so I'm surprised at the 180.

PS: I guess I should mention, I want to go full-bolt-on, I made the mistake of saying maxing out the M62. Not ready to port heads and stuff just yet, I will probably go turbo next (few years) and do it all.

 

Buy a griffen

 

doesnt hurt my feelings. im a broke ass college student lol. im probably one of the few who has no cooling on a 2.8" pulley. i overlooked that you were buying a spacer and i think the idea behind them is good and they have been positively reviewed when they dont leak.

 

Why not buy tvs and injectors?

 

If your planning to go turbo then just wait and go turbo, don't even bother dicking around with the supercharger. When all is said and done you still got to install the parts, tune for them then when you decide it's time to turbo, your gonna have to uninstall everything part it out for half of what you paid , then get the turbo set-up Yada Yada Yada....

If you really need something to satisfy you before going turbo I'd go with bigger injectors, option b, maybe a smaller pulley, and meth. A ported head could do wonders but might as well do cams at the same time so id wait on that, again if you are certain you want to go turbo.

If you were planning to go tvs on the other hand that changed things a bit