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Old 04-28-2013 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mexi_loco
and you haven't modified that nipple coming out of the valve cover, correct?
Zzp has the back of the valve cover going to the intake tube. Maybe there's too much vacuum in the intake manifold and its pulling oil from the valve cover hence the blue smoke
Old 04-28-2013 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rivaladore
Zzp has the back of the valve cover going to the intake tube. Maybe there's too much vacuum in the intake manifold and its pulling oil from the valve cover hence the blue smoke
This is the SAME thing I was thinking because when I just left it vented to the atmosphere it never smoked
Old 04-28-2013 | 10:54 PM
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that nipple is not really designed to vent the crankcase pressures created by turbocharging these engines. What you're seeing when blue smoke comes out is most likely caused by oil being pushed out the exhaust by too much crankcase pressure.

There's a couple of fixes to this. The cheapest is to get a breather filter and tap the oil cap. The RIGHT WAY would be to seal that nipple off and weld a couple of -10an fittings to the valve cover and run lines from the those fittings, to a air/oil separator (that has a breather), and to a good known vacuum source (your turbo intake, for example).

I honestly don't recommend the breather filter, for one, because you'll see a **** ton of oil on your valve cover, and two, because it's just a patch and not a fix.
Old 04-28-2013 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mexi_loco
that nipple is not really designed to vent the crankcase pressures created by turbocharging these engines. What you're seeing when blue smoke comes out is most likely caused by oil being pushed out the exhaust by too much crankcase pressure.

There's a couple of fixes to this. The cheapest is to get a breather filter and tap the oil cap. The RIGHT WAY would be to seal that nipple off and weld a couple of -10an fittings to the valve cover and run lines from the those fittings, to a air/oil separator (that has a breather), and to a good known vacuum source (your turbo intake, for example).

I honestly don't recommend the breather filter, for one, because you'll see a **** ton of oil on your valve cover, and two, because it's just a patch and not a fix.
Or he could run it like the zzp kit does. I have zero issues with smoking.
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:00 PM
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So if I get a catch can and weld shut the nipple on the back of the vc then drill and weld a new nipple it should vent enough pressure to keep the oil from being pushed into the exhaust manifold causing the blue smoke? So how about this catch can

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-TURBO-OIL-CATCH-CAN-TANK-RESERVOIR-750ML-JDM-ALUMINUM-DRIFT-PERFORMANCE-/280769839786?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item415f2fc2aa
This setup would be familiar to c130's but what else must I do to the vc for this to work?

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Or he could run it like the zzp kit does. I have zero issues with smoking.
How is this?

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Old 04-28-2013 | 11:00 PM
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I'm not exactly sure how zzp run it myself. I just don't trust that nipple. It's a really small outlet; and after seeing a **** ton of oil around where my intake manifold meets the head, I won't ever use it again.
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:01 PM
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Is your car smoking at idle or just wot?
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:03 PM
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Is your car smoking at idle or just wot?
At idle like I said this wasn't happening when the nipple was vented to atmosphere
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:05 PM
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I never ran a canned tune ever. Installed kit then had BYT tune me again(tuned my sc setup with no problems).........car would stall with ac on, apparently was to lazy to change the tb scalar settings. we pulled over like 5 times to get the idle right and it was still rough and sent me on my way. Then a few months later after sweating my ***** off in humid weather i got retuned by Gremlin85 on the forums(new england performance and tune) and have had no problems since. It was so nice to finally be able to turn the ac back on
Good to hear, canned tunes are a no no hah. There's a good tuner around me but he's a pain and a half to get ahold of. I haven't been on the forums too much recently but from what I remember nobody has really had problems with ZZP dyno tunes? Or better question yet, do they road tune?
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
At idle like I said this wasn't happening when the nipple was vented to atmosphere
Well then that's your problem, don't hook it up to the intake manifold. The vacuum there is pulling oil into you combustion chamber. Run the back of the valve cover to right after your air filter like how zzp does with their turbo kits and problem is solved.
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:08 PM
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I got the same catch can as c130, I just really hope the 3/8" line will fit over the stock pcv nipple on the valve cover.
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rivaladore
Well then that's your problem, don't hook it up to the intake manifold. The vacuum there is pulling oil into you combustion chamber. Run the back of the valve cover to right after your air filter like how zzp does with their turbo kits and problem is solved.
Will do or just try the catch can to intake setup. But ZZP doesn't modify the VC do they?
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mahfouzman
I got the same catch can as c130, I just really hope the 3/8" line will fit over the stock pcv nipple on the valve cover.
It should be fine that nipple is just a little bigger than 3/8s. To be exact I think it is a 1/2. Try it out and let me know bc that's the same one im going with.
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
It should be fine that nipple is just a little bigger than 3/8s. To be exact I think it is a 1/2. Try it out and let me know bc that's the same one im going with.
If that's the case it should work perfect I think, I also have 1/2" line that I intended to run at first but the fittings on the catch can are 3/8" so the line is too loose. But I'll let you know man.
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
Will do or just try the catch can to intake setup. But ZZP doesn't modify the VC do they?
Not with their kit no. Just a short little vacuum hose maybe 5 inches long that goes to the intake tube.
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:20 PM
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I mean I can deffinently do that but I would like to have a catch can In between the to so no oil gets into the turbo for sure
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
I mean I can deffinently do that but I would like to have a catch can In between the to so no oil gets into the turbo for sure
Just pulled my intake off today, running no catch can and the tube is clean. So reside what so ever, but Eventually I do plan on putting a catch can setup in there sometime.
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
It should be fine that nipple is just a little bigger than 3/8s. To be exact I think it is a 1/2. Try it out and let me know bc that's the same one im going with.
you would think but it draws down to the size of a coffee stir straw then goes through plastic baffles to separate oil and air. It aint cutting it. YOu need to tap the vc or weld in AN fittings.

This is the actual stock hole that travels about 12 inches to the front of the engine and then is further restricted under the steel baffle.



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Originally Posted by rivaladore
Just pulled my intake off today, running no catch can and the tube is clean. So reside what so ever, but Eventually I do plan on putting a catch can setup in there sometime.
Yeah its just a back up kind of thing ya know. But the tuner was very helpful today
Old 04-28-2013 | 11:34 PM
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I will drill and weld up my vc later but I really need to just get this thing to a driving state right now so I can save a little money instead of driving the damn gas drinking truck
Old 04-29-2013 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mexi_loco
There's a couple of fixes to this. The cheapest is to get a breather filter and tap the oil cap. The RIGHT WAY would be to seal that nipple off and weld a couple of -10an fittings to the valve cover and run lines from the those fittings, to a air/oil separator (that has a breather), and to a good known vacuum source (your turbo intake, for example).
I wouldn't run an air/oil separator with a breather on it but the rest sounds about right
Old 04-29-2013 | 12:30 PM
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don't run an open catchcan if it's going back to vacuum.
Old 04-29-2013 | 01:30 PM
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Yes let's intentionally create a vac leak... At least it's filtered
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SMH man u should have hit me up dude. Until u get an intake vent that to atmosphere not the intake manifold. Only three lines should be there, your brake booster line, in the center, the line from the pcv check valve in the flange of the intake, and one down to your BOV.

and times two on a sealed catch can thats tied into a vacuum source

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Old 04-29-2013 | 05:33 PM
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SMH man u should have hit me up dude. Until u get an intake vent that to atmosphere not the intake manifold. Only three lines should be there, your brake booster line, in the center, the line from the pcv check valve in the flange of the intake, and one down to your BOV.

and times two on a sealed catch can thats tied into a vacuum source
this and...

X2 on the check valves in the brake booster and manifold PCV breather on the intake manifold side of the head.


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