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Old 09-19-2013 | 07:10 PM
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I think I might try an inline in sequence with my intank before going surg tank just to see how it works out. Then go from there.
without a collector/reservoir/surgetank call it what you want, sticking an inline 044 or similar on the fuel delivery line will certainly add to any problems you are having. How will the fuel pressure be regulated? By the in tank pump? Based on my limited knowledge your idea wont work.

I am not sure what Mr. B has against surge tanks, he is normally a pretty astute fellow. Must be a KY thing or sumthin.
Old 09-20-2013 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts

without a collector/reservoir/surgetank call it what you want, sticking an inline 044 or similar on the fuel delivery line will certainly add to any problems you are having. How will the fuel pressure be regulated? By the in tank pump? Based on my limited knowledge your idea wont work.

I am not sure what Mr. B has against surge tanks, he is normally a pretty astute fellow. Must be a KY thing or sumthin.
Well by theory the intank pump is flowing on its own not regulated to the inline pump which is regulated. Not having the intake pump regulated for a set pressure will allow it to flow at its max flow rate. I believe thats the theory behind the setup
Old 09-20-2013 | 07:15 AM
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Well by theory the intank pump is flowing on its own not regulated to the inline pump which is regulated. Not having the intake pump regulated for a set pressure will allow it to flow at its max flow rate. I believe thats the theory behind the setup
then your post is not correct. You cant just dump an inline pump in there without and aftermarket regulator. then you have to worry about where to put the return fuel from the afternarket regulator. Then you conclude that having a surge tank is the only reasonable way to achieve your goal, providing a return for the fuel from the regulator etc. Unless you figure you can T into the plastic OEM fuel return .Good luck with that.

Now if you go back to Mr B and his objection to a surge tank, leaving your fuel system stock is the easiest and will work so long as your LSJ power goals are below 350.
Old 09-20-2013 | 11:09 AM
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I have a full return set up. Regulator is after the fuel rail. Return goes back to the tank. Many others have ran similar setups. How is mine wrong and will not work?
Old 09-20-2013 | 01:39 PM
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So lets say you do run an inline 044. At flow rates where the tank ump keeps up, 044 is being force fed. This is all fine and dandy unless the 044 says eff you I don't want pressure on my backside.

Middle scenereo: 044 has is flowing the max of the in tank. This is nearly the same as running the 044 by itself.
Until....
044 passes in tank flow rate. Now your just dragging the inline down.
Surge tank is simple and takes all the negatives out of running an inline, other than costin just a hair more.
Old 09-20-2013 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by armcclure
So lets say you do run an inline 044. At flow rates where the tank ump keeps up, 044 is being force fed. This is all fine and dandy unless the 044 says eff you I don't want pressure on my backside.

Middle scenereo: 044 has is flowing the max of the in tank. This is nearly the same as running the 044 by itself.
Until....
044 passes in tank flow rate. Now your just dragging the inline down.
Surge tank is simple and takes all the negatives out of running an inline, other than costin just a hair more.
True. I see your point.
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I have a full return set up. Regulator is after the fuel rail. Return goes back to the tank. Many others have ran similar setups. How is mine wrong and will not work?
Back to your position that you wish to put in an 044 inline and nothing else. Go ahead do it and let us know how it turns out.
Old 09-20-2013 | 02:05 PM
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Old 09-20-2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
without a collector/reservoir/surgetank call it what you want, sticking an inline 044 or similar on the fuel delivery line will certainly add to any problems you are having. How will the fuel pressure be regulated? By the in tank pump? Based on my limited knowledge your idea wont work.

I am not sure what Mr. B has against surge tanks, he is normally a pretty astute fellow. Must be a KY thing or sumthin.
I have nothing against a surge but at the power level were at it is not needed

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So lets say you do run an inline 044. At flow rates where the tank ump keeps up, 044 is being force fed. This is all fine and dandy unless the 044 says eff you I don't want pressure on my backside.

Middle scenereo: 044 has is flowing the max of the in tank. This is nearly the same as running the 044 by itself.
Until....
044 passes in tank flow rate. Now your just dragging the inline down.
Surge tank is simple and takes all the negatives out of running an inline, other than costin just a hair more.
the 044 flows the same or a little less then the dw it just depends on who did the testing

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Back to your position that you wish to put in an 044 inline and nothing else. Go ahead do it and let us know how it turns out.
I know how it will turn out

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Old 09-20-2013 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere

the 044 flows the same or a little less then the dw it just depends on who did the testing
Not at high pressure.
Old 09-20-2013 | 11:11 PM
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you don't need to run the pressure to the moon

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Old 09-21-2013 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
you don't need to run the pressure to the moon
You do if the injectors are getting close to maxed. Jon was running over 80psi rail at wot. 80's @ 100%dc. Needs more fuel.
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needs bigger inj not more pressure
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Old 09-26-2013 | 10:16 AM
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lol nice! which one you goin with?
Old 09-26-2013 | 10:19 AM
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I'll wake up this thread a little by posting a ridiculous pic

I'd use... All of them.. screw it. LOL
Old 09-26-2013 | 10:20 AM
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The big one right in front of my car is mine. The other big one is one my friend had on his evo before he got the buscher BMFIC, and the other 2 little ones are my friends failed attempt at duals on his G35 lol
Old 10-01-2013 | 11:52 AM
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Got tuned on 9 psi because I didn't have my bc set up correctly. It's meh. Probably about the same as my TVS 2.6 set up. Happy is running well, gonna fix the bugs then go back for 20 psi
Old 10-01-2013 | 11:59 AM
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Did your TVS make like 300whp? lol remember, turbo's feel faster. I thought my friend Brian's car was gonna eat me after driving it and being it it, then I put a few cars on him. Just giving you crap though. My friends 2.0 Evo made 418whp all the way down on WG 14lbs on his 6262. Thats good power for such low boost. GSC S'2s and 10:1 CR.

Why didn't you take the 30 seconds to switch the vacuum lines on your boost controller so it worked?
Old 10-01-2013 | 12:03 PM
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My Bc goes from the brass on turbo to lower wg nipple. I haz no fitting in the top of my wg so I need to order that
Old 10-01-2013 | 01:18 PM
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My Bc goes from the brass on turbo to lower wg nipple. I haz no fitting in the top of my wg so I need to order that
car is looking good. im loving the red lol
Old 10-01-2013 | 01:47 PM
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car is looking good. im loving the red lol
Thanks man, I'm really happy I have a nice picture sig now
Old 10-01-2013 | 01:49 PM
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Thanks man, I'm really happy I have a nice picture sig now
yeah i still dont have one lol. need something worth showing off i guess
Old 10-01-2013 | 02:27 PM
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What wastegate and BC you have? Shouldn't need the top port unless its a ZZP BC. From turbo to inlet on BC, then from outlet on BC to side wastegate port and leave top port open to atmosphere if its a newer tial IIRC. It depends on the gate though. Could have unthreaded the lower port and put it into the top too if thats the issue.
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
What wastegate and BC you have? Shouldn't need the top port unless its a ZZP BC. From turbo to inlet on BC, then from outlet on BC to side wastegate port and leave top port open to atmosphere if its a newer tial IIRC. It depends on the gate though. Could have unthreaded the lower port and put it into the top too if thats the issue.
Tial with one nipple on the bottom. And I have it just as you described


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