Official Turbo LSJ thread!!!
#8126
#8129
s259 is biggest I would suggest on a car that is not set up for full drag racing, i.e. mostly street driven.
If its a trailer queen that lives its life on the track, I would suggest a larger frame turbo like s366 or s372, nitrous, slicks, high end axles, bad ass clutch, some form of line lock/trans brake system that will allow you to build boost at the line, cams set up for top end power (mid and low range power is not significant in drag racing).
as long as the turbo can be full spool before 5k rpm, launch above that, rev out to 8500+ rpm, shift, still in boost because it doesnt fall below 5k rpm, power will be right back on and going, thats the only way to use any of that power, and slicks, slicks, slicks you wouldnt run a race in boots, why are you making your car do it and then expecting to be fast?
If its a trailer queen that lives its life on the track, I would suggest a larger frame turbo like s366 or s372, nitrous, slicks, high end axles, bad ass clutch, some form of line lock/trans brake system that will allow you to build boost at the line, cams set up for top end power (mid and low range power is not significant in drag racing).
as long as the turbo can be full spool before 5k rpm, launch above that, rev out to 8500+ rpm, shift, still in boost because it doesnt fall below 5k rpm, power will be right back on and going, thats the only way to use any of that power, and slicks, slicks, slicks you wouldnt run a race in boots, why are you making your car do it and then expecting to be fast?
#8130
There are many forms of racing and auto sports, and several ways to enjoy our cars.
s259 is biggest I would suggest on a car that is not set up for full drag racing, i.e. mostly street driven.
If its a trailer queen that lives its life on the track, I would suggest a larger frame turbo like s366 or s372, nitrous, slicks, high end axles, bad ass clutch, some form of line lock/trans brake system that will allow you to build boost at the line, cams set up for top end power (mid and low range power is not significant in drag racing).
as long as the turbo can be full spool before 5k rpm, launch above that, rev out to 8500+ rpm, shift, still in boost because it doesnt fall below 5k rpm, power will be right back on and going, thats the only way to use any of that power, and slicks, slicks, slicks you wouldnt run a race in boots, why are you making your car do it and then expecting to be fast?
If its a trailer queen that lives its life on the track, I would suggest a larger frame turbo like s366 or s372, nitrous, slicks, high end axles, bad ass clutch, some form of line lock/trans brake system that will allow you to build boost at the line, cams set up for top end power (mid and low range power is not significant in drag racing).
as long as the turbo can be full spool before 5k rpm, launch above that, rev out to 8500+ rpm, shift, still in boost because it doesnt fall below 5k rpm, power will be right back on and going, thats the only way to use any of that power, and slicks, slicks, slicks you wouldnt run a race in boots, why are you making your car do it and then expecting to be fast?
#8132
#8133
whats everyone running on stock engines for power and boost? and how many miles?
im around 320whp at 20 psi to4e 125k miles.
idk if i want to retune and run more power, not sure whats safe to keep my car until at least 160k
im around 320whp at 20 psi to4e 125k miles.
idk if i want to retune and run more power, not sure whats safe to keep my car until at least 160k
#8135
Thanks
Do a compression and leak down. ARM has 160k on his and he gives no ***** because the engine is healthy
Do a compression and leak down. ARM has 160k on his and he gives no ***** because the engine is healthy
Last edited by 574; 06-30-2014 at 08:47 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#8136
Ran 185-190 psi all cylinders last weekend. the exact same since i went turbo over a year ago. I take good care of it too, oil changes every 4-5k. and only occational pulls.
#8141
#8143
I dyno'd 460 on 26 psi, then on the street ran 30 psi. Then switched to a bigger turbo and ran 28.
So just under 500.
This engine has broken every single timing chain component other than the chain and gears, some parts multiple times. Now it has bigger and stronger bolts in every spot; I drilled out and tapped the m6 holes for m8 and used arp bolts.
I also dyno'd this engine at 317 on the m62 at 120k. Before the turbo swap at 150k it had 205 compression and less than 5% leakdown. With these new cams my dynamic compression dropped a ton to 175 but it's holding steady along with leak down.
Another good point to mention though is that I don't ram tq down it's throat. Keeping cylinder pressure moderate in the midrange takes a lot of stress off of the internals.
So just under 500.
This engine has broken every single timing chain component other than the chain and gears, some parts multiple times. Now it has bigger and stronger bolts in every spot; I drilled out and tapped the m6 holes for m8 and used arp bolts.
I also dyno'd this engine at 317 on the m62 at 120k. Before the turbo swap at 150k it had 205 compression and less than 5% leakdown. With these new cams my dynamic compression dropped a ton to 175 but it's holding steady along with leak down.
Another good point to mention though is that I don't ram tq down it's throat. Keeping cylinder pressure moderate in the midrange takes a lot of stress off of the internals.
#8144
I dyno'd 460 on 26 psi, then on the street ran 30 psi. Then switched to a bigger turbo and ran 28.
So just under 500.
This engine has broken every single timing chain component other than the chain and gears, some parts multiple times. Now it has bigger and stronger bolts in every spot; I drilled out and tapped the m6 holes for m8 and used arp bolts.
I also dyno'd this engine at 317 on the m62 at 120k. Before the turbo swap at 150k it had 205 compression and less than 5% leakdown. With these new cams my dynamic compression dropped a ton to 175 but it's holding steady along with leak down.
Another good point to mention though is that I don't ram tq down it's throat. Keeping cylinder pressure moderate in the midrange takes a lot of stress off of the internals.
So just under 500.
This engine has broken every single timing chain component other than the chain and gears, some parts multiple times. Now it has bigger and stronger bolts in every spot; I drilled out and tapped the m6 holes for m8 and used arp bolts.
I also dyno'd this engine at 317 on the m62 at 120k. Before the turbo swap at 150k it had 205 compression and less than 5% leakdown. With these new cams my dynamic compression dropped a ton to 175 but it's holding steady along with leak down.
Another good point to mention though is that I don't ram tq down it's throat. Keeping cylinder pressure moderate in the midrange takes a lot of stress off of the internals.
in my case, im running about 320-330 whp at 20psi. We are going to try 25psi, so probably not even 375whp.
Would you consider this safe, with my given information? currently, i have had no issues at all. 125k
#8146
yeah, i ran a test when i was sc with a 2.9 and 60s. numbers were right 185-190.
Last week, after being turbo for a year they were all 185-186.
We also tested my brothers vr6 turbo with a head spacer, and that came up with 135-140.
helped to verify the tester wasnt giving a set reading.
I just pulled one plug, pulled the fuel pump fuse and coil connectors, and screwed in the tester. turned the engine maybe 5 times before the gauge stopped climbing
Last week, after being turbo for a year they were all 185-186.
We also tested my brothers vr6 turbo with a head spacer, and that came up with 135-140.
helped to verify the tester wasnt giving a set reading.
I just pulled one plug, pulled the fuel pump fuse and coil connectors, and screwed in the tester. turned the engine maybe 5 times before the gauge stopped climbing
#8147
Ahh that could be part of it. It will rea different with the throttle closed.
All you have to do is put both the clutch and gas to the floor before cranking, this shuts off the injectors and opens the tb. Try that and let us know what your numbers are.
All you have to do is put both the clutch and gas to the floor before cranking, this shuts off the injectors and opens the tb. Try that and let us know what your numbers are.