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Old 11-27-2012, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
Japetr what are the mods on the baseline?

Btw, great example of where the STG 2 zzp cams make power to.

Thats a solid gain in power... good job I'm jealous!
So glad i pulled the trigger on a set on Black Friday
Old 11-27-2012, 04:27 PM
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You're on a dw300 and it can't keep up? How?
Are you monitoring fuel pressure? I'd be looking more at a clogged filter before that pump.
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Originally Posted by TStone
McClure knows nothing & his m62 car is slow & barely loses to LSJ-T's...

Wait what?
Lol

Wish we would have been able to go 1320 from a dig. I honestly don't think he would have been able to catch up. Been damn close though.
I actually slowly pulled on him all through 2nd.
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Originally Posted by armcclure
You're on a dw300 and it can't keep up? How?
Are you monitoring fuel pressure? I'd be looking more at a clogged filter before that pump.
filter is brand new, pump is brand new
Old 11-27-2012, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by armcclure
You're on a dw300 and it can't keep up? How?
Are you monitoring fuel pressure? I'd be looking more at a clogged filter before that pump.
he is on 80s
Old 11-27-2012, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
he is on 80s
That's not the pump's fault...
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Dont think that since the pump is advertised to handle 500hp on E85 that it applies to a blower car
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It's still a matter of air vs fuel... It's going to be damn close.
Set your fuel lab to the lowest pressure possible while keeping your idc under 85 to get the best possible flow.
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There is a whole thread regarding monitoring the FUel pressure that made me aware of this issue

Ive talked to:
ZZP
OTTP
Fuelab
Deatchwerks
21st century musclecars (Lingenfelter)

All say what im thinking and even brainstormed together.

Pump cant keep up. Ill log a few more pulls to be sure but i think we are looking at dual pump in tank setup at this point.

400whp doesnt come easy on blower cars

I havent seen any proof yet that IDC1000s are the cure, but would be nice and easy if that was the case
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Btw IDC is 53% when this occurs
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e85 needs so much fuel. im running 60's on gas on a 2.5 tvs pulley
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Freakta, im not sure ppl that still run gas fully grasp this
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Originally Posted by JapEatr
Btw IDC is 53% when this occurs
But what is your fp? Droppind pressure down increases the flow ability of the pump. Not saying it will solve your problem completely but it will get you closer.
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Originally Posted by JapEatr
There is a whole thread regarding monitoring the FUel pressure that made me aware of this issue

Ive talked to:
ZZP
OTTP
Fuelab
Deatchwerks
21st century musclecars (Lingenfelter)

All say what im thinking and even brainstormed together.

Pump cant keep up. Ill log a few more pulls to be sure but i think we are looking at dual pump in tank setup at this point.

400whp doesnt come easy on blower cars

I havent seen any proof yet that IDC1000s are the cure, but would be nice and easy if that was the case
I have built a surge tank set up with a bosch 044 pump inline with a new Kinsler inline filter, a new fuel pressure regulator and the stock pump remains as a lift pump. I would go back to stock plumbing and run this set up at the rear.... you may find that can deliver the fuel you need...fuel line size is critical for volume....
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All comes down to price point...total installed cost including dyno time and such
IDC1000 are about $400TIC
Dual in tank pumps are about $600TIC
Im not sure where the inline option falls?

But i have spent a gagglefuck of money and would like to get this build completed as planned

John- i put together a sketch in CAD for what we were discussing earlier. Do you have AutoCAD?
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Originally Posted by JapEatr
All comes down to price point...total installed cost including dyno time and such
IDC1000 are about $400TIC
Dual in tank pumps are about $600TIC
Im not sure where the inline option falls?

But i have spent a gagglefuck of money and would like to get this build completed as planned

John- i put together a sketch in CAD for what we were discussing earlier. Do you have AutoCAD?
no i had a viewer but not on this lap top. try saving into powerpoint? email works

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Originally Posted by JapEatr
Btw IDC is 53% when this occurs
if the injectors go static the pump will lose pressure 80s no matter what you do will not be able to supply the fuel needed for your setup on e85 a brrsfs will not cut your idc in half on e85 will it help lower them some yes but not 47% a typical tvs 2.8 will run out of fuel at 7000 rpm on e85 and 80lb inj pully it up and see what happens
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Ill grab some logs to check this week, BUT i agree with you!
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I thought 80's could keep up with a 2.8 pulley if there was a return style fuel system and rewire?
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the inline pump is not expensive I have an extra one maybe. the fuel pressure regulator you should have already. the pump bracket can be fancy or simple, and the surge tank I make so not difficult.

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my tanks are a cylinder but you get the idea from this Aussie picture
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good grief you all are making things more difficult then they need to be
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Originally Posted by ThexGovenor
I thought 80's could keep up with a 2.8 pulley if there was a return style fuel system and rewire?
uh not on his setup it would help a stocker out some and it is helping his out some but not enough
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Im pretty sure he didnt have a return style, could be wrong though?


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