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Old 03-13-2013, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
stock tvs pulley w/ cams and meth
342 whp
{gmr cams btw}

et'd faster on stockers and 20 less peak whp. the gmr's didn't have the torque down low to get it moving in the 60t range. 60ft suffered a lot
i think this is a better explanation to get John's point across

not sure how the GMRs compare to the Comps tho as far as torque goes.

here is a dyno graph from two setups not even close to each other.

but it does show a TVS only setup versus a cammed and built motor setup which i think most do when going for the cam package on the TVS.



not proof positive i realize, but the torque is available down low
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Old 03-13-2013, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
dropped .3 in the 60ft on stock cams. launching at 4k on gmr cams just to get it to do something.
Post the link to your can thread.
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Old 03-13-2013, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
not to mention you were loosing a lot do to the gmr cams not setup correctly to get them to work you need longer valves and solid lash adjusters
that point was made valid a long time when witt was ******* with me about it.

as a base comparison. et vs et, the stock cams did better.
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The gmr cams are also more aggressive the the Zzp stage two cams as well. On a stock tvs pulley with the gmr cams I see that happening. But food for thought I would bog on the stock cams running the tvs and had to leave at higher Rpm 7,000
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:27 PM
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Comparing peas to apples is like comparing protons to electrons...
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
that point was made valid a long time when witt was ******* with me about it.

as a base comparison. et vs et, the stock cams did better.
that's not a fair base to base comparison of the cams
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:44 PM
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If you did t have the right valves and proper lash with solid lifters, how is it fair?
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:55 PM
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because 4 years ago when three people on this forum were doing cams. no one else had the ***** to step up and do them.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:01 PM
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Fair enough, but havi g the ***** to try it doesn't make up for not compensating for the smaller base circle with the right hardware. Don't get me wrong, not belittling your accomplishments by any means, just stating what I see.
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looks like im going to need those ID2k injectors after all


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Old 03-13-2013, 06:21 PM
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if your on the stock pump but a bigger one in

Originally Posted by Area47
because 4 years ago when three people on this forum were doing cams. no one else had the ***** to step up and do them.
im not knocking what you did either
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im on DW300, with RSFS, and 1000s
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What base? Id's can take a **** ton of fp. 120 iirc.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:23 PM
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well then your super fly lol try doing what arm is going to suggest and raise the base
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Belvedere says: dyno is bragging rights. 1320 is the true story.
So, I say its all over at the 60ft.
so all you heros go to the 1320 and post up the results: tvs stock cam, compared to tvs s2 cams, two cars, two drivers same day ;switch drivers in the cars three runs each.

then you got something to talk about .
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PS I have dyno sheets on all the cam combos I have mentioned we have built
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Cant believe you are maxing out id1000's japeater. Have you looked at zzp's dual pump setup? they said its necessary to run the id2ks
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Ppl act like 1000's are insanely bigger than 80's...

Crank the damn pressure up. They can take it. Figure out what your pump can handle.
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Should flow more at lower pressure?
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
Belvedere says: dyno is bragging rights. 1320 is the true story.
So, I say its all over at the 60ft.
so all you heros go to the 1320 and post up the results: tvs stock cam, compared to tvs s2 cams, two cars, two drivers same day ;switch drivers in the cars three runs each.

then you got something to talk about .
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PS I have dyno sheets on all the cam combos I have mentioned we have built
the problem with that is there are maybe 5 on this forum that cut consistent 60' times. This aint a car to bracket race with for sure.
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Originally Posted by JapEatr
Should flow more at lower pressure?
Pump does. Injector flow goes up with pressure. Gotta find the balance. What is your current base pressure?
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44 psi without vacuum line, 40 at idle
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Crank it up to 55. I can get the new correct tables for you.
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