Official TVS Thread!!!
11-19-2013, 02:15 PM
#7605
11-19-2013, 02:54 PM
#7610
My friend just bought a set of ID1300's. I'm excited to see how those perform. Non-ecotec related of course, but I've anticipated their release for a long time. Now there is no need to buy DW 1300's for subarus.
Anyways, Alan do you have any results from both injectors spraying while airflow is present? That would be interesting to mock up a real life flow scenario. The spray pattern of the ones you are testing look nice, but almost a little too condensed, but there is no airflow in the pictures so under a little speed it should not be an issue. What m/sec did you test them at in the pics? Also, how do they perform under low pulse widths?
Anyways, Alan do you have any results from both injectors spraying while airflow is present? That would be interesting to mock up a real life flow scenario. The spray pattern of the ones you are testing look nice, but almost a little too condensed, but there is no airflow in the pictures so under a little speed it should not be an issue. What m/sec did you test them at in the pics? Also, how do they perform under low pulse widths?
11-19-2013, 03:02 PM
#7611
My friend just bought a set of ID1300's. I'm excited to see how those perform. Non-ecotec related of course, but I've anticipated their release for a long time. Now there is no need to buy DW 1300's for subarus.
Anyways, Alan do you have any results from both injectors spraying while airflow is present? That would be interesting to mock up a real life flow scenario. The spray pattern of the ones you are testing look nice, but almost a little too condensed, but there is no airflow in the pictures so under a little speed it should not be an issue. What m/sec did you test them at in the pics? Also, how do they perform under low pulse widths?
Anyways, Alan do you have any results from both injectors spraying while airflow is present? That would be interesting to mock up a real life flow scenario. The spray pattern of the ones you are testing look nice, but almost a little too condensed, but there is no airflow in the pictures so under a little speed it should not be an issue. What m/sec did you test them at in the pics? Also, how do they perform under low pulse widths?
Other thing to consider in the above pic, is the width of the spray cone vs the distance from the injector. The back of the valves is more than double the distance of the divider from the injection point.
I will provide more info as I have it. Haven't talked to Jon since Friday.
11-19-2013, 03:33 PM
#7612
Oh these are FIC 1150's? My friend and I just spoke to someone from FIC on the phone a couple weeks ago about injectors for his Supra. He was very knowledgeable and helpful. We were contemplating taking the 4 FIC 2150's from the evo and putting them in the supra with 2 more or just getting a set of their 1650's. He convinced us to send in the 4 2150's to have them go through them and match them with 2 more new ones. When they were in the evo it ran great. 2150's with GSC S2 cams and a 1200 rpm idle with no issues. They are definitely of good quality.
The fact that they are FIC's makes me comfortable. I am hesitant about cheaper injectors, as I've seen so many fail and cause issues. FIC and ID are my favorites in my personal opinion, depending on application I suppose. Precision has their place too, but they don't seem to be on a "helpful phone call away" basis.
The fact that they are FIC's makes me comfortable. I am hesitant about cheaper injectors, as I've seen so many fail and cause issues. FIC and ID are my favorites in my personal opinion, depending on application I suppose. Precision has their place too, but they don't seem to be on a "helpful phone call away" basis.
11-19-2013, 04:27 PM
#7615
Nope.
ID didn't have the right layout for lsj's anyway until I sent Paul the right offset table. This was a while after you ran them so I'm assuming you just came up with your own?
ID didn't have the right layout for lsj's anyway until I sent Paul the right offset table. This was a while after you ran them so I'm assuming you just came up with your own?
Last edited by armcclure; 11-19-2013 at 04:34 PM.
11-19-2013, 05:55 PM
#7619
I guess he didn't save it then, because he had to do it all over again when I contacted him.
As for the ID vs FIC battle... I see alot of bs from both sides IMO, and I'd rather not ***** up this thread with the he-said-she-said crap. I'm aware of the claims made by both sides.
I have spent time on the phone with both Paul and Jon, and both were extremely helpful. Jon has been doing this longer, and offers more options. ID has very nice stuff. As i said, i ran them and loved them. but they come off at times (to me) as disrespectful with a holier than thou attitude. Maybe it's just me, but I personally don't like seeing a professional company post articles on their website full of personal attacks and swearing.
I would rather base my opinion on results as opposed to forum wars, and ID doesn't have what I'm looking for.
Why can't they offer a split cone? If its pointless, I guess automakers have been pissing money down the drain for years.
FYI: fic's data, supposedly, was done by a member here. Lwrs10 or something like that. Unless he's a liar too?
And just so we're clear, I'm not trying to step on any toes or start any sort of an argument. Simply stating my opinion.
I've never been one to take other's word as gold, rather as just another piece of information.
As for the ID vs FIC battle... I see alot of bs from both sides IMO, and I'd rather not ***** up this thread with the he-said-she-said crap. I'm aware of the claims made by both sides.
I have spent time on the phone with both Paul and Jon, and both were extremely helpful. Jon has been doing this longer, and offers more options. ID has very nice stuff. As i said, i ran them and loved them. but they come off at times (to me) as disrespectful with a holier than thou attitude. Maybe it's just me, but I personally don't like seeing a professional company post articles on their website full of personal attacks and swearing.
I would rather base my opinion on results as opposed to forum wars, and ID doesn't have what I'm looking for.
Why can't they offer a split cone? If its pointless, I guess automakers have been pissing money down the drain for years.
FYI: fic's data, supposedly, was done by a member here. Lwrs10 or something like that. Unless he's a liar too?
And just so we're clear, I'm not trying to step on any toes or start any sort of an argument. Simply stating my opinion.
I've never been one to take other's word as gold, rather as just another piece of information.
11-19-2013, 06:24 PM
#7620
Arm check out Racetronix. The guy who runs that place is a hot rodder, is seriously up to date and supplies a lot of the fancy hot rod places world wide. |The fact that he is local to me is great. I can pay him another visit, he has some new stuff that I suggested to Area to try and Bryan said "you dont need it"
so for my weaksos setup I am still good.
after all these years.
so for my weaksos setup I am still good.
after all these years.
11-19-2013, 06:42 PM
#7621
I looked there, but they don't offer a split cone high flow. They're 2 biggest ones (160&210) are just off the shelf bosch natural gas injectors. From the research I've done they have a 25* single cone. Which is alot better than most.
We'll see. I haven't made the final decision yet.
We'll see. I haven't made the final decision yet.
11-19-2013, 07:26 PM
#7622
I looked there, but they don't offer a split cone high flow. They're 2 biggest ones (160&210) are just off the shelf bosch natural gas injectors. From the research I've done they have a 25* single cone. Which is alot better than most.
We'll see. I haven't made the final decision yet.
We'll see. I haven't made the final decision yet.
: guns:
11-19-2013, 08:04 PM
#7623
It doesn't cost me anything when you call me. Only when I call you back. I always thought with cell phones it didn't matter who called who, but I made sure. Something about the company that controls the Canadian service. . .
Anyway, email on the way
Anyway, email on the way
