Option B Kit
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thinking about driver's side mount tub in a stealthy place so it looks factory and use the option B mount for my methanol injection.
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na its a pretty good mod imo...hatrickstu says that it doubles the coolant capacity of the original i/c cooling system and it gave me a really good drop in iat2's. its basically for poor guys like me though who dont wanna have to take the intake manifold and supercharger and everything else off to put the dual pass on there but along with a second h/e it does wonders..
2nd question.... Is there any benefit to doing both zzp HE and then add in GM dual pass endplate?
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#2 is conflicting info but it doesnt hurt
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have fun, im off. hopefully rushhour cleared
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The bigger fill neck/coolant tank **** is not the same or anywhere close to Option B.
Dual-pass is a method of providing more efficent flow through the cores in the manifold, which actually controls temps where it matters. Option B just adds a larger tank and self bleeding capabilities.
The autozone coolant tank mod is just replacing the stock filler with a large one, the "gain" you get is when you drain out the coolant and re-fill it with ice water, while it stays cold your IAT2s will be very low. Until the ice melts. Very useful at the track, but not so much on the road. The reason you can't do the same with the Option B setup is that this is plumbed as part of the flow, meaning what you put in gets circulated through the system. Option B tank is strictly a reserve/expansion tank, and has very minimal flow through it, so putting ice in it won't do much at all.
Dual-pass is a method of providing more efficent flow through the cores in the manifold, which actually controls temps where it matters. Option B just adds a larger tank and self bleeding capabilities.
The autozone coolant tank mod is just replacing the stock filler with a large one, the "gain" you get is when you drain out the coolant and re-fill it with ice water, while it stays cold your IAT2s will be very low. Until the ice melts. Very useful at the track, but not so much on the road. The reason you can't do the same with the Option B setup is that this is plumbed as part of the flow, meaning what you put in gets circulated through the system. Option B tank is strictly a reserve/expansion tank, and has very minimal flow through it, so putting ice in it won't do much at all.
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So for #2 when you say conflicting....basically it is overkill?
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The bigger fill neck/coolant tank **** is not the same or anywhere close to Option B.
Dual-pass is a method of providing more efficent flow through the cores in the manifold, which actually controls temps where it matters. Option B just adds a larger tank and self bleeding capabilities.
The autozone coolant tank mod is just replacing the stock filler with a large one, the "gain" you get is when you drain out the coolant and re-fill it with ice water, while it stays cold your IAT2s will be very low. Until the ice melts. Very useful at the track, but not so much on the road. The reason you can't do the same with the Option B setup is that this is plumbed as part of the flow, meaning what you put in gets circulated through the system. Option B tank is strictly a reserve/expansion tank, and has very minimal flow through it, so putting ice in it won't do much at all.
Dual-pass is a method of providing more efficent flow through the cores in the manifold, which actually controls temps where it matters. Option B just adds a larger tank and self bleeding capabilities.
The autozone coolant tank mod is just replacing the stock filler with a large one, the "gain" you get is when you drain out the coolant and re-fill it with ice water, while it stays cold your IAT2s will be very low. Until the ice melts. Very useful at the track, but not so much on the road. The reason you can't do the same with the Option B setup is that this is plumbed as part of the flow, meaning what you put in gets circulated through the system. Option B tank is strictly a reserve/expansion tank, and has very minimal flow through it, so putting ice in it won't do much at all.
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I thought it was more expensive according to that guy. and i could careless about track runs as i only go there once or twice a year but if you can stop my car from hitting 150ait2 temps in florida around normal driving then im all in. But im not trying to drive around putting ice in my tank every ten minutes because ice cant even stay in my cooler for 20 minutes in the ac in florida temps.
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i started with intake temps of like 104 and end at like 115. 11* rise. and this is not only the case at the track. ask brianthelion or lsjwannabe. they have seen my street logs of 3-4 pulls at a time and the intakes temp are WAY better than on a stock system.
I thought it was more expensive according to that guy. and i could careless about track runs as i only go there once or twice a year but if you can stop my car from hitting 150ait2 temps in florida around normal driving then im all in. But im not trying to drive around putting ice in my tank every ten minutes because ice cant even stay in my cooler for 20 minutes in the ac in florida temps.
see how long it takes to boil a cup of water with a lighter
now see how long it takes to boil a bucket with a lighter
same principle, the more fluid, the less quickly you will heat soak, AND you get the track benefit
im perfectly fine with you seeing this as a "cheap mod" because its pieced together by a hick in arkansas, but at least realize that it actually is effective.
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again not true.
i started with intake temps of like 104 and end at like 115. 11* rise. and this is not only the case at the track. ask brianthelion or lsjwannabe. they have seen my street logs of 3-4 pulls at a time and the intakes temp are WAY better than on a stock system.
you dont have too. is it really that hard to understand. more fluid will take longer to heat soak. basic science. look at it this way (you can thank an0 for this example)
see how long it takes to boil a cup of water with a lighter
now see how long it takes to boil a bucket with a lighter
same principle, the more fluid, the less quickly you will heat soak, AND you get the track benefit
im perfectly fine with you seeing this as a "cheap mod" because its pieced together by a hick in arkansas, but at least realize that it actually is effective.
i started with intake temps of like 104 and end at like 115. 11* rise. and this is not only the case at the track. ask brianthelion or lsjwannabe. they have seen my street logs of 3-4 pulls at a time and the intakes temp are WAY better than on a stock system.
you dont have too. is it really that hard to understand. more fluid will take longer to heat soak. basic science. look at it this way (you can thank an0 for this example)
see how long it takes to boil a cup of water with a lighter
now see how long it takes to boil a bucket with a lighter
same principle, the more fluid, the less quickly you will heat soak, AND you get the track benefit
im perfectly fine with you seeing this as a "cheap mod" because its pieced together by a hick in arkansas, but at least realize that it actually is effective.
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i was tuning the car on the highway, no ice or any other "artificial" cooler was added. this went on over 3 days and i never touched the reservoir. it takes longer to heat up, period. i dont roll around like a damn ice cream truck with tons of cold **** to dump in my car at various points. its really not that complicated to figure out. hell its purpose is EXACTLY the same as the dual pass and option B. I would put money on this "cheap" system to work more effectively than option B
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The bigger fill neck/coolant tank **** is not the same or anywhere close to Option B.
Dual-pass is a method of providing more efficent flow through the cores in the manifold, which actually controls temps where it matters. Option B just adds a larger tank and self bleeding capabilities.
The autozone coolant tank mod is just replacing the stock filler with a large one, the "gain" you get is when you drain out the coolant and re-fill it with ice water, while it stays cold your IAT2s will be very low. Until the ice melts. Very useful at the track, but not so much on the road. The reason you can't do the same with the Option B setup is that this is plumbed as part of the flow, meaning what you put in gets circulated through the system. Option B tank is strictly a reserve/expansion tank, and has very minimal flow through it, so putting ice in it won't do much at all.
Dual-pass is a method of providing more efficent flow through the cores in the manifold, which actually controls temps where it matters. Option B just adds a larger tank and self bleeding capabilities.
The autozone coolant tank mod is just replacing the stock filler with a large one, the "gain" you get is when you drain out the coolant and re-fill it with ice water, while it stays cold your IAT2s will be very low. Until the ice melts. Very useful at the track, but not so much on the road. The reason you can't do the same with the Option B setup is that this is plumbed as part of the flow, meaning what you put in gets circulated through the system. Option B tank is strictly a reserve/expansion tank, and has very minimal flow through it, so putting ice in it won't do much at all.
just got home to check this out and i wont let this go unanswered.
Listen dude, when you get option B your just making a reserve tank.
Hatrick's mod is a BIGGER reserve tank + fill delete. He just removed pointless fill with the tank instead. If you go Option B you just have 2 fill points. WTF? Your talking about ICE in the system... well you can do the same with option B except it would be harder to get at without crushing the stuff to get it in.
Please educate yourselves before you say its b.s. because hatrick's mod is basically just a BIGGER effecient option B with the option to throw ice in there.
In fact you might as well call it Option C