Option B Kit
08-27-2008, 08:12 PM
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Just to clear some things up, "Option B" usually precludes "Dual Pass", which is a more efficient use of the cooling system. So "Option B" without the dual pass endplate is essentially what HTS has done. Adding in a dual pass system to his setup would be an even better improvement (exaclty like Option B is).
Just thought I'd try and clear things up, 'cause there is some arguing here over different aspects of the cooling system - I think there is more agreement here than it seems.
Just thought I'd try and clear things up, 'cause there is some arguing here over different aspects of the cooling system - I think there is more agreement here than it seems.
08-27-2008, 08:15 PM
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Just to clear some things up, "Option B" usually precludes "Dual Pass", which is a more efficient use of the cooling system. So "Option B" without the dual pass endplate is essentially what HTS has done. Adding in a dual pass system to his setup would be an even better improvement (exaclty like Option B is).
Just thought I'd try and clear things up, 'cause there is some arguing here over different aspects of the cooling system - I think there is more agreement here than it seems.
Just thought I'd try and clear things up, 'cause there is some arguing here over different aspects of the cooling system - I think there is more agreement here than it seems.
08-27-2008, 08:19 PM
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OK!
just got home to check this out and i wont let this go unanswered.
Listen dude, when you get option B your just making a reserve tank.
Hatrick's mod is a BIGGER reserve tank + fill delete. He just removed pointless fill with the tank instead. If you go Option B you just have 2 fill points. WTF? Your talking about ICE in the system... well you can do the same with option B except it would be harder to get at without crushing the stuff to get it in.
Please educate yourselves before you say its b.s. because hatrick's mod is basically just a BIGGER effecient option B with the option to throw ice in there.
In fact you might as well call it Option C
just got home to check this out and i wont let this go unanswered.
Listen dude, when you get option B your just making a reserve tank.
Hatrick's mod is a BIGGER reserve tank + fill delete. He just removed pointless fill with the tank instead. If you go Option B you just have 2 fill points. WTF? Your talking about ICE in the system... well you can do the same with option B except it would be harder to get at without crushing the stuff to get it in.
Please educate yourselves before you say its b.s. because hatrick's mod is basically just a BIGGER effecient option B with the option to throw ice in there.
In fact you might as well call it Option C
08-27-2008, 08:26 PM
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08-27-2008, 08:27 PM
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08-27-2008, 08:30 PM
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The bigger fill neck/coolant tank **** is not the same or anywhere close to Option B.
Dual-pass is a method of providing more efficent flow through the cores in the manifold, which actually controls temps where it matters. Option B just adds a larger tank and self bleeding capabilities.
The autozone coolant tank mod is just replacing the stock filler with a large one, the "gain" you get is when you drain out the coolant and re-fill it with ice water, while it stays cold your IAT2s will be very low. Until the ice melts. Very useful at the track, but not so much on the road. The reason you can't do the same with the Option B setup is that this is plumbed as part of the flow, meaning what you put in gets circulated through the system. Option B tank is strictly a reserve/expansion tank, and has very minimal flow through it, so putting ice in it won't do much at all.
Dual-pass is a method of providing more efficent flow through the cores in the manifold, which actually controls temps where it matters. Option B just adds a larger tank and self bleeding capabilities.
The autozone coolant tank mod is just replacing the stock filler with a large one, the "gain" you get is when you drain out the coolant and re-fill it with ice water, while it stays cold your IAT2s will be very low. Until the ice melts. Very useful at the track, but not so much on the road. The reason you can't do the same with the Option B setup is that this is plumbed as part of the flow, meaning what you put in gets circulated through the system. Option B tank is strictly a reserve/expansion tank, and has very minimal flow through it, so putting ice in it won't do much at all.
now dualpass was not the issue as ive never brought it up short of that option B was meant for it. However my focus has always been on Option B vs Option C.
Not Option C vs Dual Pass Endplate
Also it makes sense. What does the stock intercooler hold? maybe 2 quarts total? Thats not much coolant to work with in cooling that hush puppy up.
In fact im theorizing that the extra HE everyone is installing is mostly benefited in drops due to extra coolant. Obviously more coolant is being cooled too but I wonder by how much just a reservoir vs an extra HE would benefit.
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08-27-2008, 08:33 PM
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Is what brought me back in to it since ive gotten home....
now dualpass was not the issue as ive never brought it up short of that option B was meant for it. However my focus has always been on Option B vs Option C.
Not Option C vs Dual Pass Endplate
Hatrick has proof your wrong
now dualpass was not the issue as ive never brought it up short of that option B was meant for it. However my focus has always been on Option B vs Option C.
Not Option C vs Dual Pass Endplate
Hatrick has proof your wrong
. He is trying to say that dual pass will cool the car, unlike the bigger tank which will jsut keep the coolant alittle cooler over a longer period of time. Im gunna do the dual pass, with the option B as the stu coolant mod lol, more coolant and better flow WTF
08-27-2008, 08:34 PM
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08-27-2008, 08:34 PM
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he has proof from you guys up north, come down here and those gains would be close to **** for us . He is trying to say that dual pass will cool the car, unlike the bigger tank which will jsut keep the coolant alittle cooler over a longer period of time. Im gunna do the dual pass, with the option B as the stu coolant mod lol, more coolant and better flow WTF
. He is trying to say that dual pass will cool the car, unlike the bigger tank which will jsut keep the coolant alittle cooler over a longer period of time. Im gunna do the dual pass, with the option B as the stu coolant mod lol, more coolant and better flow WTFThe weather in florida is only about a 5 degree difference. Just your humidity is ****.
08-27-2008, 08:34 PM
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Is what brought me back in to it since ive gotten home....
now dualpass was not the issue as ive never brought it up short of that option B was meant for it. However my focus has always been on Option B vs Option C.
Not Option C vs Dual Pass Endplate
Hatrick has proof your wrong
Also it makes sense. What does the stock intercooler hold? maybe 2 quarts total? Thats not much coolant to work with in cooling that hush puppy up.
In fact im theorizing that the extra HE everyone is installing is mostly benefited in drops due to extra coolant. Obviously more coolant is being cooled too but I wonder by how much just a reservoir vs an extra HE would benefit.
now dualpass was not the issue as ive never brought it up short of that option B was meant for it. However my focus has always been on Option B vs Option C.
Not Option C vs Dual Pass Endplate
Hatrick has proof your wrong
Also it makes sense. What does the stock intercooler hold? maybe 2 quarts total? Thats not much coolant to work with in cooling that hush puppy up.
In fact im theorizing that the extra HE everyone is installing is mostly benefited in drops due to extra coolant. Obviously more coolant is being cooled too but I wonder by how much just a reservoir vs an extra HE would benefit.
he didn't prove me anything, I was referring to doing just option B by itself. It won't do anything to directly affect cooling. It would do the same as his does, increase capacity, but his has the added functionality of letting you actually exchange the coolant, which is a good thing.
I'm gone from this thread, you people don't wanna hear what I have to say, so I'll comply.
Thanks.
08-27-2008, 08:37 PM
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well you jsut contradicted urself lol, with heat soak its over a 100 every fukin day, and its humid as all hell. IMO worst condition for a car to run in.
08-27-2008, 08:37 PM
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There is no Option C, option B is part of a dual pass setup. Does that make sense? This is a resevior swap, nothing more. Like a H/E swap.
he didn't prove me anything, I was referring to doing just option B by itself. It won't do anything to directly affect cooling. It would do the same as his does, increase capacity, but his has the added functionality of letting you actually exchange the coolant, which is a good thing.
I'm gone from this thread, you people don't wanna hear what I have to say, so I'll comply.
Thanks.
he didn't prove me anything, I was referring to doing just option B by itself. It won't do anything to directly affect cooling. It would do the same as his does, increase capacity, but his has the added functionality of letting you actually exchange the coolant, which is a good thing.
I'm gone from this thread, you people don't wanna hear what I have to say, so I'll comply.
Thanks.
08-27-2008, 08:39 PM
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I guess I should make sure my car doesnt get skin cancer with the UV index too.
08-27-2008, 08:42 PM
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You guys go do your damn hatricks mod. im just trying to find a site with option b componients or anyone have the part number for res
hes trying to tell your if its 90 degrees here ait1 is about 105 and ait2 is about 140 so it doesnt matter about if the heat is coming from the temp or humidity its still hot as hell.
hes trying to tell your if its 90 degrees here ait1 is about 105 and ait2 is about 140 so it doesnt matter about if the heat is coming from the temp or humidity its still hot as hell.
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08-27-2008, 08:42 PM
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he has proof from you guys up north, come down here and those gains would be close to **** for us . He is trying to say that dual pass will cool the car, unlike the bigger tank which will jsut keep the coolant alittle cooler over a longer period of time. Im gunna do the dual pass, with the option B as the stu coolant mod lol, more coolant and better flow WTF
. He is trying to say that dual pass will cool the car, unlike the bigger tank which will jsut keep the coolant alittle cooler over a longer period of time. Im gunna do the dual pass, with the option B as the stu coolant mod lol, more coolant and better flow WTFyou guys are really misreading some ****. i wil get back in here later i have some stuff to do. go back and reread about my kit because you guys have some MASSIVE misinterpretations
08-27-2008, 08:45 PM
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omg so much fail... so little time.
Hold on let me find my logs... jesus your making me get my laptop from my car.
08-27-2008, 08:50 PM
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and your point?? does is snow there??? then its north lol, and cooler then down here. Im not misinterpretating your kit, I know what it does, im just gunna do my own route with the option B resivior, along with dual pass
08-27-2008, 08:50 PM
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ok real quick
i guarentee you mine is better than option B alone. i guarentee you that option B with the endplate would own my system. option B is for coolant expansion and nothing else. mine allows you to actually introduce DOUBLE the amount of fluid actually running through the system. i woudl bet my tank with a dual pass would exceed the performance of the option b with endplate.
i like the fact you guys are saying "well its hotter here so its not the same." dumbest argument ever.
READ-
both kits are designed to REDUCE HEAT SOAK. that is the case if its 30* outside or 500* heat soak is heat soak, and the goal is to make it take longer for it to set in. by mine having more fluid and it actually flowing through the system it will take LONGER to heat soak. do you freaking get it now?
i guarentee you mine is better than option B alone. i guarentee you that option B with the endplate would own my system. option B is for coolant expansion and nothing else. mine allows you to actually introduce DOUBLE the amount of fluid actually running through the system. i woudl bet my tank with a dual pass would exceed the performance of the option b with endplate.
i like the fact you guys are saying "well its hotter here so its not the same." dumbest argument ever.
READ-
both kits are designed to REDUCE HEAT SOAK. that is the case if its 30* outside or 500* heat soak is heat soak, and the goal is to make it take longer for it to set in. by mine having more fluid and it actually flowing through the system it will take LONGER to heat soak. do you freaking get it now?
08-27-2008, 08:51 PM
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Unless your laptop has a site i can get a dual pass from or the part number for the reservour i dont care.