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Old 01-19-2010, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hobbitjones
so with stage 3 and meth i could expect low 300's ?? stock internals safe at this point or no? haha
You don't need meth to make over 300 whp. A proper setup on pump gas (93 octane) can do 315 all day.

It is a great help though once you start to pulley down.

Stock internals are just peachy on a tvs setup of any sort. As long as the car is properly monitored and driven you won't have problems.
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
you don't need meth to make over 300 whp. A proper setup on pump gas (93 octane) can do 315 all day.

It is a great help though once you start to pulley down.

Stock internals are just peachy on a tvs setup of any sort. As long as the car is properly monitored and driven you won't have problems.
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:32 AM
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well im at 83k miles still ok you think? car runs great now. well maintained. Its a debate for me between turbo or this prolly
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
You don't need meth to make over 300 whp. A proper setup on pump gas (93 octane) can do 315 all day.

It is a great help though once you start to pulley down.

Stock internals are just peachy on a tvs setup of any sort. As long as the car is properly monitored and driven you won't have problems.
Sean, you are my hero

Originally Posted by Hobbitjones
well im at 83k miles still ok you think? car runs great now. well maintained. Its a debate for me between turbo or this prolly
My car has 71k HARD miles and 20k are with a TVS. Without methanol. So, you are peachy. Area47 has more and is fine. Just don't drive like a jackass

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My car has 71k HARD miles and 20k are with a TVS. Without methanol. So, you are peachy. Area47 has more and is fine. Just don't drive like a jackass
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going for the ottp stage 2 this summer. can't wait. i would love that tvs on my car someday.
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i know u guys give a can tune but i want to know on a dyno what are u getting to the wheels with the tune u guys are using in this kit and yes i do know that it would be conservitive tune because it is canned. just would like to know.
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hehe got my w 2s in yesterday...... this is next i think
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
There is not too many people making 315 whp on 93 octane without meth. I can only think of about 2 people. People should expect about 280whp bolting this kit on.
Once again, what makes you the expert? Have you sold over 100 of these to cobalt and ion customers? Didn't think so....
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
There is not too many people making 315 whp on 93 octane without meth. I can only think of about 2 people. People should expect about 280whp bolting this kit on.
Did you count me? ugh
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
There is not too many people making 315 whp on 93 octane without meth. I can only think of about 2 people. People should expect about 280whp bolting this kit on.
I basically have this kit, want me to bolt it on and dyno it and get back to you on that? I won't hook up the meth and I'll run it on the stock pulley and we'll see what happens.

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Old 01-19-2010, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
I basically have this kit, want me to bolt it on and dyno it and get back to you on that? I won't hook up the meth and I'll run it on the stock pulley and we'll see what happens.

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You are making around 270 - 280 whp if your running 93.
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270-280 with the tvs??? really? cause, i'm making 273 with the m62 and basically same mods (3" intake, header w/3" collector, 3" dp, 3"catback, 2.8/60s, h/e, meth)

notice everything is 3" for all you people saying it doesn't make power
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
Did you count me? ugh
Me too?
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yeah and theres a reason for that...its the stock pulley!! thats liking trying to make a valid arguement that people make terrible numbers on the stock 3.3 on the m62. well no ****. but how many people actually keep that pulley when wanting more power??

you can make over 300whp w/o meth on the 2.9.
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Originally Posted by Sizzle06
Me too?
You have e85. I said 93
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I don't have meth
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
yeah and theres a reason for that...its the stock pulley!! thats liking trying to make a valid arguement that people make terrible numbers on the stock 3.3 on the m62. well no ****. but how many people actually keep that pulley when wanting more power??

you can make over 300whp w/o meth on the 2.9.
Yes i know you can make over 300 you just need someone that is good at tuning the lsj and the right bolt ons to go with it.
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see now you're changing it up. first you were just talking about a canned tune. now you're talking about bolt ons. which again. ANYONE who is running a tvs isn't going to stop with just the blower and injectors. so duh, they're gonna have intake, full exhaust, and some cooling. YOUR original statement of not being able to make 300whp with a canned tune, is false.

i'll even make you a bet. i'll go buy a tvs and 79s. i'll have ottp send me a canned tune WITHOUT METH. if i don't make 300whp or better. i'll send it to you for free. if i make 300whp or better. you get the bill. deal??? no?? why not...cause you know you're wrong?
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
see now you're changing it up. first you were just talking about a canned tune. now you're talking about bolt ons. which again. ANYONE who is running a tvs isn't going to stop with just the blower and injectors. so duh, they're gonna have intake, full exhaust, and some cooling. YOUR original statement of not being able to make 300whp with a canned tune, is false.

i'll even make you a bet. i'll go buy a tvs and 79s. i'll have ottp send me a canned tune WITHOUT METH. if i don't make 300whp or better. i'll send it to you for free. if i make 300whp or better. you get the bill. deal??? no?? why not...cause you know you're wrong?
You are way off. I said there are only 2-3 people making 315whp without meth or higher octane than 93. Prove me wrong.
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
You are making around 270 - 280 whp if your running 93.
I'm not "making" anything right now besides maybe 235ish being that I'm mostly stock at this point in time. But, I'm willing to bet if I go downstairs and grab my intake, TVS, and injectors that I can get over 300
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ht=dyno+thread
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I would not put this kit on unless you have someone to fine tune it with hptuners.
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A tvs on a canned tune is not safe to go beat on.
like i said. my bet stands. canned tune, 300whp or better.
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
like i said. my bet stands. canned tune, 300whp or better.
Ok sounds good.
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i'll save you all the trouble, i should have one of these as soon as my check clears, there's a dyno right down the street. right now the car is still just basic bolt ons with no meth


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