Originally Posted by southal cobalt

wheres the torque curve on the graph? i see two curves, but neither could be the torque curve.

Originally Posted by KMO43

The pink line is torque. It basically goes up with spool

Originally Posted by southal cobalt

why dont they cross where they should then?

Originally Posted by KMO43

It's not an N/A engine has a slow spool. if the graph had boost on it as well you would see full spool around max torque

Originally Posted by southal cobalt

yeah, i hear ya. i was just pointing out that they should cross at 5225 or whatever rpm, and they do if the scales on either axis match

Originally Posted by REDi DEViSTATOR

The engine has been fine since the new insall. I have a little over 30k on it now. Its got an odd tick now though. I installed an AEM E85 pump so maybe the higher pressure is making an injector tick? Idk. The clutch was a south bend stage 3, was installed correctly with a fidanza flywheel. It just broke prematurely. With this car, seems there's always something breaking. I don't drive it anymore and its not fun when I do. So, it sits.so, yea I guess I'm bitter. But, I'm not trying to bash ottp or hurt anyones feelings. Just being realistic. The cost of the kit shouldn't be much over the one by hahn since the only difference looks to be the turbo. Which still shouldn't add thousands to the cost regardless. Now, if there were stuff like charge pipes, intercooler, injectors,intake manni, exhaust mani, turbo, bov, wastegate, mbc, fuel return system, and tune... I could see a price in the lower 4k's but. And that's about the cost of a zzp kit. Only diff would be the fuel return and intake manifold. And with a turbo, that really doesn't matter that much. All you really get is a big ass plenum. That's essentially what the lsj stock manifold is already. I'm curious though, if you run the stock water intercooler and the air to air intercooler in tandem, wouldn't that make for a better charge air temp thus increasing the amount of timing you can add and gain hp? Sorry, off topic but I had an epiphany

Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921

That manifold sure looks familiar

Originally Posted by UltraSilverSS

I don't see an option for a full kit just the builder kit or am I looking in the wrong place? What's the price on the full kit and what does it include?