player_1

thanks for the advise, I'll look into that

Edubs

Okay, something very interesting is going on here. I posted twenty minutes ago and now the post is missing...

Oh well, here it is again.

Thanks for coming on here and letting us know what's going on. It still kinda sucks that we don't know what's going on completely. I still have to decide if I should drive down to Jersey this weekend and pay $350 to get tuned. Am I throwing my money away? It would be nice to see Mev on here commenting on the situation. Some of us have decent money dumped into their products and now there's big question as to whether or not they will stand up to the claims of how great they are. One thing I don't get is how people keep saying that specs weren't provided for these cams. Mev posted months ago in the JBP Cam Tech thread regarding those:

distillion

well from my understanding i was told he dosnt tell anyone.... so i dunno, i guess he did in that thread so my bad.
the question is was there info on them when they were installed on Eds car and are they the same setup as what he is selling now?
also note what jbp states...
are tryflow specs are released for the first time??!!
what does that mean?
people bitching at him to finally release the specs??
fishy imo.

Toronto SS

I think most of our issues are that if you are the tester and things are still being tested why are they doing goup buys and whatnot on untested/unproven cams.

John

so ur car is ok now

Edubs

I just want to know if I have the same spec cam in my car that Ed is having problems with. I have no problem going down to dyno the cams and let everyone know what kind of power I make, but I'm not going to just throw my money away. I need Mev to get on here and give us an idea of what is going on and why. I need confirmation that I'm not going to waste my time this weekend, ya know...

Straight from their website:

"ALL our camshafts come with a limited 5-year warranty from any manufacturing defects or design flaws. Guaranteed performance, our cams are meticulously designed and perfected."

I don't think they would start up a GB with unargueably great prices just to shoot themselves in the foot. I just need some input straight from the manufacturer, not word of mouth...

cavalierss

^^ that warranty only applies to the company making the cams, not JBP. There's a clause that protects Mev from us going to him. Ask Player 1 how long he's been waiting for his new springs from JBP.

JBP is a crook and no one should deal with him. He takes your money, makes you wait and gives you **** in return. I no have five friends that he has completely screwed over. You want to know by how much? One guy got ****'d for $9,000, another got a half built motor with stock parts put back into it and one guys motor blew. Mev claimed it was him turning up the boost, but in fact, it was JBP's shitty build on his motor.

I'd take those cams and send them right back Edubs.

DTM2188

I should be able to tell you how things go by Friday night, Saturday at the latest.

x2!

Player1, I really hope that things work out for you, I know how it feels to get your hopes up in anticpation to something that could potentially be great and then have them shot down. Again, I wish you the best of luck and I will get everyone here my results ASAP, whether they be good or bad. Obviously, if there is more than one person having similar issues with the cams then there is a cause for concern, if it is just one car, then I'm not sure what to say the problem is. I'll post in this thread and start a new one for everyone.

player_1

Mike read it again it says our tryflow specs are released for the first time! lol.
and it was posted months ago

Cliff Shut your trap, Mev has come clean with me on anything that gone wrong, and I have no worries about that. If there is something wrong with the cam design, He'll fix it.

as far as my Valve springs go, the only reason I waited so long, Is because Ferrea didn't have valve springs. they were being made. it took them 3 weeks to make 4 sets that JBP ordered.
(which work great)
it was the Bates Valve spring that screwed me over. which has nothing to do with Mev.




Thanks I hope things go better for you then it did for me.

distillion

sick
i was a lil unsure and found it wierd, thanks for the clear up, but you haev had the cams for more than a few months back, watever as long as yer being looked after and things get figured out and resolved .
so what aer you gonna do now??

player_1

either wait for a set of stocker to come in and try to tune with the staockers. if I make more power, then mev goes back to the drawing bored, and fixes it or refund the money.

right now it's not hurting the car by driving with them, so I'm OK.

the other thing is, if someone else gets dyno'd and is having the same issues, then I'm sure he'll look into finding out what is wrong

sunfirejoe

iTrader: (1)

i hope thigns work out man, over the past i have seen some bad remarks, but i do understand they are busy, i do see he is trying to fix any problems hes had

Edubs

Ed, have you been in contact w/ Mev recently? If so, you should ask him to get on this thread and enter the convo. I'm sure he doesn't want to come on here and catch a bunch of ****, but it would be nice to see him on here trying to interject his opinion and stand behind his products...

distillion

eddie, any idea on why you are running almost 30 degress hotter than me at wide open throttle, that can be one of the reason why your numbers are suffering and im not sure if cams would have anything to do with that....

Wingless Black

Im suspicious of a company that wont put their own products on their own vehicles.

I hope it all works out in the end player 1

Edubs

People need to stop coming on here and just throwing accusations around. If you know something, then just don't say a comment referring to it when other people have no idea what you're referring to. It might as well be B.S. unless you actually have facts to back up your comments…

Sorry for sounding like an ass, but these comments are either coming from ignorance or someone with an inside scoop. If there’s an inside scoop, the rest of us would like to know!

player_1

The heat may be a factor as well, ever since I've had the cams installed, I've run a little hotter then stock.

JBP

Guys, Ed just called me and informed me about this thread. Without going through all the pages and reviewing all the information and <i>misinformation</i> posted I have to say that Ed's definately been through a lot, and we've been through it with him. We've always tried our best to cut him a break whenever **** went wrong that wasn't even our fault, and when things were our fault, we've always sucked it up and compensated him for whatever might have ailed him. I haven't been on the forum for 4 - 5 days now, because we're just so busy with Rod's car. Obviously, I don't have time to respond to banter but most of the **** talking is one-sided and brought on by collective select groups.

Whatever the outcome of Ed's car, good or bad, we wont stop until he is running to full potential. I don't have to tell Ed this because he knows how I work and that he's always going to be taken care of.

BooSSted

iTrader: (3)

I am going to save my JBP comments until I see the outcome of the Vic_Red project. That is your opportunity to redeem yourself and prove that your the builder you claim to be!

As for the rest of the parts...Cams, Header, Exhaust, etc. As far as I am aware Ed IS the tester for these items, so problems are more than likely going to arise when your the first to own something. This goes for parts from most companies. As long as JBP honors thier mistakes and mishaps, I don't see a huge issue. It's a risk that Ed was willing to take in being the first.

Edubs

Thank you for coming on and saying your piece Mev.

2006ArrivalBlueSS

You're too nice...I read this thread and all I can do is shake my head in disgust. Ed, you deserve better IMO. But if you're happy, then I support you!!!

JMAc88

I think the key word is that player 1 is the tester. Yes there are problems, but...he is the tester. As long as they fix this problem, i don't see anything wrong.

I look at Injen, they are a great example. The first intake they designed for the car was never tested. Lots of people had problems and had to send them back to injen (my-self included). Yet, for some reason everyone still says they are the best intake, i think alot had to do with customer service. If JBP is offering player 1 excellent service, whats th problem?

Edubs

I have nothing to be mad about yet...

I requested the guy come on here and make a comment, he did. I'm pretty happy with the fact that he seems like he's going to stand behind his product. We'll just have to see how DTM and myself end up after we dyno.

I assume you're referring to coolant temps? Anyways, mine have been right around the same as they were before I had the cams installed. 180 on average...

I wish you the best of luck, and I think you're going to come through this, eventually, with a bad ass car.

Toronto SS

This is more than just cams.... anyways im not gonna get into this

djt81185

Player 1...which bates valve springs were u using? which model number?

Also which retainer and seat

what were u doing for lash adjusters?