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Old 05-06-2008, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by roadrage06
A Pled to Any and All Vendors...

What the hell is a "pled"?

It was either supposed to be:

I plead to any and all vendors....

or

A plee to any and all vendors....



You are correct about plead but just for future reference "plee" is not a word- it is supposed to be "plea" so before you start cutting down other people and try to act smart, make sure you can pull it off. I think that adds to the fails of this thread. Just my opinion
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
For $600 you aren't going to get much action. I understand it is not a cheap endeavor, but the people on here are stingy, the ones looking to stay blower are not looking for huge power, and the 5 of us that actually want to make mid 300's on the blower are not enough to warrant such a project. Just my thoughts.
right on
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Originally Posted by G85 SS
And it is my understanding that that is the reason why a blower boosting upwards of 20 pounds are not seeing the results to the ground. Twinscrew for exaple.

But a Turbo set-up at 21 pounds makes 401 WHP.....All that is due to just the intake manifold? Surly some of the power loss we see is due to the blower needing power to make power....
There is a thing called CFM that dictates power from psi. You can have a big ass turbo with HIGH cfm and low psi push higher numbers than a lower cfm turbo putting out higher psi. Total psi is not the answer it's cfm with psi....
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
There is a thing called CFM that dictates power from psi. You can have a big ass turbo with HIGH cfm and low psi push higher numbers than a lower cfm turbo putting out higher psi. Total psi is not the answer it's cfm with psi....
Omega, these are the posts that are usually have me thinking in terms of volumetric flow rates.

Wicked, it doesn't quite work that way. The volumetric airflow (CFM) does not change between compressors. Omega's point was the actual airmass can be greater or less in the same volume of air because of temperature.

CFM (volumetric airmass) will be the same at a given pressure (psi) across all compressors on the same engine. Because of heat, the air can be more or less dense at the same pressure and volumetric flowrate. Its actually airmass and not CFM that dictates power since airflow ratio is a ratio of the mass of air to the mass of fuel.
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i see a long line of fail buses lined up with free helmets to all the riders.
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i see a long line of fail buses lined up with free helmets to all the riders.
Were you not the claimed driver?
Old 05-06-2008, 11:26 AM
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not today. i drove the lemmings off the cliff last week
Old 05-06-2008, 11:27 AM
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Kinda back on topic...I would love to see flow numbers of the stock manifold, but I'm concerned at what pressure the numbers were obtained.
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Originally Posted by Witt
Kinda back on topic...I would love to see flow numbers of the stock manifold, but I'm concerned at what pressure the numbers were obtained.
You mean pressure and temperature?

When I flow tested my test mules:
Flow measured by;
flow measured @ X pressure, Y temperature
where X pressure is varied along set Y temperature... then repeated at next temperature level

IC effeciency measured by;
Pressure and temp pre IC vs pressure and temp post IC.
Therefore a good idea of temp and pressure loss can be calculated.
I took my results one step further in my design and factored in assumed pressure loss due to IC cooling effect, and found the actual IC pressure loss due to restriction.

No big deal
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i guess i should just delete my request for a new intake mani...
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Originally Posted by 06YellowSS/SCinSC
You are correct about plead but just for future reference "plee" is not a word- it is supposed to be "plea" so before you start cutting down other people and try to act smart, make sure you can pull it off. I think that adds to the fails of this thread. Just my opinion
yeah, spelling may have been wrong, but still sounded better to anyone reading it.
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We do have CNC machining capabilities and CNC mandrel bending here, we can look into this...
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
You = clueless
Well thank you all mighty Omega. Didn't mean to cut you down or your hopes.
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Originally Posted by Raven SS
i guess i should just delete my request for a new intake mani...
keep it up theres good interest, I too think theres alot of power to be gained with a different manifold.
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Originally Posted by methodman2424
Well thank you all mighty Omega. Didn't mean to cut you down or your hopes.
Your off to a great first 11 posts there dick wad.
If you can't pull reasonable power out of an LSJ, you need to stop modifying cars.
Sorry guys... just telling the truth here.

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Wow... this is coming from a guy who can't even figure out what re-flash is included in the GM stage kits...
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
Your off to a great first 11 posts there dick wad.
If you can't pull reasonable power out of an LSJ, you need to stop modifying cars.
Sorry guys... just telling the truth here.

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Wow... this is coming from a guy who can't even figure out what re-flash is included in the GM stage kits...
Well in my first post I just stated that I didn't see the point in 1000-2000 bucks for 20-30 horse. I didn't put no technical specs up or whatever. Thats all I said. Thank you for looking at my other posts. I asked bout the reflash cause I didn't know. I have always worked on SBC V8's. And looking at how many posts you have I see you don't have anything better to ******* do than talking ****. I didn't single you out in my first post and point my comments towards you so back the **** up.
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dayum... time for some Haterade and popcorn break!!!
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Originally Posted by methodman2424
Well in my first post I just stated that I didn't see the point in 1000-2000 bucks for 20-30 horse. I didn't put no technical specs up or whatever. Thats all I said. Thank you for looking at my other posts. I asked bout the reflash cause I didn't know. I have always worked on SBC V8's. And looking at how many posts you have I see you don't have anything better to ******* do than talking ****. I didn't single you out in my first post and point my comments towards you so back the **** up.
Aw, jeez....
Here we go...

You assumed that the IM would be $1k-2k and would only give 20-30hp.
I KNOW FOR A FACT that it will yield higher results, and shouldn't cost more than $600.

Don't go around assuming things, and bitching about stuff you haven't' looked into. That's one thing that pisses off a lot of people around here, including me.

As far as my posts being useless.... look again....
Beyond that, most people have learned thus far that being civil, and politely PM-ing me gets the good info quicker than being a dick. I know that I don't post up the real detailed stuff, but to be honest, CSS is kind of a n00b haven...
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
Aw, jeez....
Here we go...

You assumed that the IM would be $1k-2k and would only give 20-30hp.
I KNOW FOR A FACT that it will yield higher results, and shouldn't cost more than $600.

Don't go around assuming things, and bitching about stuff you haven't' looked into. That's one thing that pisses off a lot of people around here, including me.

As far as my posts being useless.... look again....
Beyond that, most people have learned thus far that being civil, and politely PM-ing me gets the good info quicker than being a dick. I know that I don't post up the real detailed stuff, but to be honest, CSS is kind of a n00b haven...
QFT!
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
Aw, jeez....
Here we go...

You assumed that the IM would be $1k-2k and would only give 20-30hp.
I KNOW FOR A FACT that it will yield higher results, and shouldn't cost more than $600.

Don't go around assuming things, and bitching about stuff you haven't' looked into. That's one thing that pisses off a lot of people around here, including me.

As far as my posts being useless.... look again....
Beyond that, most people have learned thus far that being civil, and politely PM-ing me gets the good info quicker than being a dick. I know that I don't post up the real detailed stuff, but to be honest, CSS is kind of a n00b haven...
Well sorry. I read on here the 1000-2000 bucks and 20-30 horse. Maybe I was wrong. And sorry for being a cobalt n00b and asking questions in other posts that I didn't know the answers to.
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Originally Posted by methodman2424
Well sorry. I read on here the 1000-2000 bucks and 20-30 horse. Maybe I was wrong. And sorry for being a cobalt n00b and asking questions in other posts that I didn't know the answers to.
Look... no worries...
Ask lots of questions, be polite and have fun...

Just remember... we're all in this modding thing together.

Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
QFT!
LAWL!!!!

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Originally Posted by methodman2424
Well sorry. I read on here the 1000-2000 bucks and 20-30 horse. Maybe I was wrong. And sorry for being a cobalt n00b and asking questions in other posts that I didn't know the answers to.
well seeings how im the one begging for a new intake manifold (and me and omega have been working on this for a good 6 months together) with me saying in the first post on who would be willing to pay 600 or a little more for a new one should let u know off that bat thats it not gonna be 2 grand
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Raven, LSJ, I'm down for this. The TVS is just not workin to full potential due to the IM.
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Put me down for one. After seeing the stock one...holy poop.
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
Raven, LSJ, I'm down for this. The TVS is just not workin to full potential due to the IM.
ive been speaking with fast98 about something custom that we feel is gonna be very very nice....lol...will keep u updated...


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