porting my s/c RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK
07-08-2008, 02:51 PM
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the hole is it does not work.
Here is another hole, what your saying with your experiment is that no matter how much psi you put in that ballon, aside from popping it, you will not increase whats going out.
SO, what your saying is that by changing the pulley on the stock blower you wouldnt get anything out of it, yes you have to tune to match the fuel for it, but your saying dropping that pulley size would have no affect on the amount of air going into the engine.
SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY BIG HOLE TO ME!
Here is another hole, what your saying with your experiment is that no matter how much psi you put in that ballon, aside from popping it, you will not increase whats going out.
SO, what your saying is that by changing the pulley on the stock blower you wouldnt get anything out of it, yes you have to tune to match the fuel for it, but your saying dropping that pulley size would have no affect on the amount of air going into the engine.
SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY BIG HOLE TO ME!
If you look at the air hole, and u have it half blown up, it wont come out as forcefully as it fully blown up.
Otherwise....well the plastic manifold shows what happens when u push 20 psi.
anything else?
07-08-2008, 02:52 PM
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dropping pulley size = exhale faster = forcing more air out of that tiny hole at a faster rate.
If you look at the air hole, and u have it half blown up, it wont come out as forcefully as it fully blown up.
Otherwise....well the plastic manifold shows what happens when u push 20 psi.
anything else?
If you look at the air hole, and u have it half blown up, it wont come out as forcefully as it fully blown up.
Otherwise....well the plastic manifold shows what happens when u push 20 psi.
anything else?
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07-08-2008, 02:54 PM
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07-08-2008, 02:55 PM
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Okay - Why did the Garret VNT-15 turbo @ 16psi make les power than the VNT-20 turbo @16psi on my VW??
07-08-2008, 02:55 PM
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Details.
I just want to know why you think this way. Its not like quantum physics.
07-08-2008, 02:57 PM
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http://www.capa.com.au/eaton_mp62_4th.htm
Look at the lower right hand graph.
With a 2.9 you are only using like 15hp or something and with a GMS2 pulley its even less. I didnt read this whole thread to know what pulley you are going to run but theres the graph...
Look at the lower right hand graph.
With a 2.9 you are only using like 15hp or something and with a GMS2 pulley its even less. I didnt read this whole thread to know what pulley you are going to run but theres the graph...
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07-08-2008, 02:57 PM
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later all, I have some parts to make
07-08-2008, 02:58 PM
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dropping pulley size = exhale faster = forcing more air out of that tiny hole at a faster rate.
If you look at the air hole, and u have it half blown up, it wont come out as forcefully as it fully blown up.
Otherwise....well the plastic manifold shows what happens when u push 20 psi.
anything else?
If you look at the air hole, and u have it half blown up, it wont come out as forcefully as it fully blown up.
Otherwise....well the plastic manifold shows what happens when u push 20 psi.
anything else?
And beyond that, do you really think your manifolds will blow up at 20psi?
I'm pretty sure there are a few guys pushing over 20psi on turbo conversions.
It's an extrapolation from the chart on Eaton's website.
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http://www.capa.com.au/eaton_mp62_4th.htm
Look at the lower right hand graph.
With a 2.9 you are only using like 15hp or something and with a GMS2 pulley its even less. I didnt read this whole thread to know what pulley you are going to run but theres the graph...
Look at the lower right hand graph.
With a 2.9 you are only using like 15hp or something and with a GMS2 pulley its even less. I didnt read this whole thread to know what pulley you are going to run but theres the graph...
07-08-2008, 02:59 PM
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Again, your measuring pre-cooler. Get over the balloon.... it's a junk theory.
And beyond that, do you really think your manifolds will blow up at 20psi?
I'm pretty sure there are a few guys pushing over 20psi on turbo conversions.
It's an extrapolation from the chart on Eaton's website.
And beyond that, do you really think your manifolds will blow up at 20psi?
I'm pretty sure there are a few guys pushing over 20psi on turbo conversions.
It's an extrapolation from the chart on Eaton's website.
07-08-2008, 02:59 PM
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talking about the ecotecs with plastic manifolds. couple pages back will show u what happens.
07-08-2008, 03:02 PM
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Those manifold's were never meant to see boot... ever.
Wait... hold everything... I think someone got though to him....
Now, since you understand that, the 15 is like a stock M62... the 20 is like a ported M62. (not directly, this is a respectful comparison)
More volume can escape... therefore better.
Do you get it now?
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I am arguing that pre-cooler or not, the balloon experiment is very accurate to measure SC to intake to cooler or cylinder or whatever piping u want to add to it.
It was also based off PSI, CFM, volume and dimensions.
I didnt throw in intercoolers to get off topic but the principal is sound as ive yet to see it shot down.
07-08-2008, 03:04 PM
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Plastic is weaker than cast aluminum.
Those manifold's were never meant to see boot... ever.
Wait... hold everything... I think someone got though to him....
HOLY ****!!!!
Now, since you understand that, the 15 is like a stock M62... the 20 is like a ported M62. (not directly, this is a respectful comparison)
More volume can escape... therefore better.
Do you get it now?
Those manifold's were never meant to see boot... ever.
Wait... hold everything... I think someone got though to him....
HOLY ****!!!!
Now, since you understand that, the 15 is like a stock M62... the 20 is like a ported M62. (not directly, this is a respectful comparison)
More volume can escape... therefore better.
Do you get it now?
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07-08-2008, 03:05 PM
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im not arguing that.
I am arguing that pre-cooler or not, the balloon experiment is very accurate to measure SC to intake to cooler or cylinder or whatever piping u want to add to it.
It was also based off PSI, CFM, volume and dimensions.
I didnt throw in intercoolers to get off topic but the principal is sound as ive yet to see it shot down.
I am arguing that pre-cooler or not, the balloon experiment is very accurate to measure SC to intake to cooler or cylinder or whatever piping u want to add to it.
It was also based off PSI, CFM, volume and dimensions.
I didnt throw in intercoolers to get off topic but the principal is sound as ive yet to see it shot down.
you might not think that it was shot down
07-08-2008, 03:05 PM
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Plastic is weaker than cast aluminum.
Those manifold's were never meant to see boot... ever.
Wait... hold everything... I think someone got though to him....
HOLY ****!!!!
Now, since you understand that, the 15 is like a stock M62... the 20 is like a ported M62. (not directly, this is a respectful comparison)
More volume can escape... therefore better.
Do you get it now?
Those manifold's were never meant to see boot... ever.
Wait... hold everything... I think someone got though to him....
HOLY ****!!!!
Now, since you understand that, the 15 is like a stock M62... the 20 is like a ported M62. (not directly, this is a respectful comparison)
More volume can escape... therefore better.
Do you get it now?
omfg
im surrounded by morons.
07-08-2008, 03:06 PM
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see guys, he refuses to admit he was wrong or when someone has made a valid point that prooves him wrong. He really only knows how to argue and call names apparently.
I would leave it alone guys you will never get through
07-08-2008, 03:08 PM
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i asked specificly for dimensions to grab CFM.
Were u snoozing? i can do a whole play-by-play of it.
07-08-2008, 03:11 PM
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He gave you 2 compressors... if you wanted 'dimensions' to know which is bigger, you could have googled it.... cause apparently that's what your good at...
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07-08-2008, 03:12 PM
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i couldnt have said it better myself
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