porting my s/c RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK
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i found the link, but it has been removed for some reason.
the user name is EatonSC.
10 posts total on this name.
what edubs posted in lsj tech is more or less what he posted.
the user name is EatonSC.
10 posts total on this name.
what edubs posted in lsj tech is more or less what he posted.
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also here is what i mean
and
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nothing really to argue about then.
I agree with what you say in heinsight however, you are awfully vague and it gets irritating sometimes. Hence why i dont know if you know what you are talking about or do but are being truthful.
I want no ill-will toward anyone on this site. I just hate people setting themselves up for failure because someone did something that wasnt properly explained and attempted it themselves and wondered why they fucked their blower up.
Anyway, id rather not be tested for future reference
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THAT is better!
but still up for minimal debate and isnt worth the bandwidth to post about.
I agree with what you say in heinsight however, you are awfully vague and it gets irritating sometimes. Hence why i dont know if you know what you are talking about or do but are being truthful.
I want no ill-will toward anyone on this site. I just hate people setting themselves up for failure because someone did something that wasnt properly explained and attempted it themselves and wondered why they fucked their blower up.
Anyway, id rather not be tested for future reference
+rep for clarification
THAT is better!
but still up for minimal debate and isnt worth the bandwidth to post about.
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Holy **** this is still going on??
I've got a great idea. Post a sticky like this:
What A Ported S/C should look like:
What A Ported S/C SHOULD NOT LOOK LIKE:
OR:
/thread.
I've got a great idea. Post a sticky like this:
What A Ported S/C should look like:
What A Ported S/C SHOULD NOT LOOK LIKE:
OR:
/thread.
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here is a port matched throttle body
first the casting marks and lip were removed from s/c inlet.... outlet was not touched!
then throttle body was port matched and the lips on inlet and outlet were removed (but actual diameter wasent increased to ensure a tight fit around the
butterfly to avoid cels and idle issues, in the last pic the TB is not closed it is in the relaxed position)
now i did research for two weeks or so before i ever touched a metal removing bit or dremel, i also had the car tuned after for the increased airflow...
(ps no tunning issues everything was fine, no skewed readings or anything that you might think would be related to the TB porting/smoothing)
first the casting marks and lip were removed from s/c inlet.... outlet was not touched!
then throttle body was port matched and the lips on inlet and outlet were removed (but actual diameter wasent increased to ensure a tight fit around the
butterfly to avoid cels and idle issues, in the last pic the TB is not closed it is in the relaxed position)
now i did research for two weeks or so before i ever touched a metal removing bit or dremel, i also had the car tuned after for the increased airflow...
(ps no tunning issues everything was fine, no skewed readings or anything that you might think would be related to the TB porting/smoothing)
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nothing really to argue about then.
I agree with what you say in heinsight however, you are awfully vague and it gets irritating sometimes. Hence why i dont know if you know what you are talking about or do but are being truthful.
I want no ill-will toward anyone on this site. I just hate people setting themselves up for failure because someone did something that wasnt properly explained and attempted it themselves and wondered why they fucked their blower up.
Anyway, id rather not be tested for future reference
+rep for clarification
THAT is better!
but still up for minimal debate and isnt worth the bandwidth to post about.
I agree with what you say in heinsight however, you are awfully vague and it gets irritating sometimes. Hence why i dont know if you know what you are talking about or do but are being truthful.
I want no ill-will toward anyone on this site. I just hate people setting themselves up for failure because someone did something that wasnt properly explained and attempted it themselves and wondered why they fucked their blower up.
Anyway, id rather not be tested for future reference
+rep for clarification
THAT is better!
but still up for minimal debate and isnt worth the bandwidth to post about.
The problem is you assume that everythign on paper is always definitive and that everyone was porting like the other 2 pictures. Dont assume you know more then everyone all the time. Some of us here actually did this the right way when we did do it.
If I didnt trade in my car, you had me so fired up I would have pulled the blower off just to show you the porting I did. Luckily I was smart enough to trade it in and upgrade
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[QUOTE=rrutter81;2571268]LMFAO
you had to open your mouth.... wow
Lets continue on then shall we?
This is debatable, but with the minimal port job in question, not enough of a gain/loss to mention.
qft
[QUOTE=BOOSSTED 06;2571036]
The problem is you assume that everythign on paper is always definitive and that everyone was porting like the other 2 pictures. Dont assume you know more then everyone all the time. Some of us here actually did this the right way when we did do it.
Your assuming now, and that is a fact (^^^). You saying i assumed something, is an opinion. BIG difference. I could keep nailing that coffin down if you want, just keep pushing. I have no problem going in to the nitty gritty on why its almost not worth it.
Acting like you added anything more than disinformation throughout this thread is obsurd looking back on it. In fact, what information did you post?
20 degree iat2 drops? <----- this will never happen
7 hp? <------ maybe possible but i wouldnt get my hopes up.
worth it? ill let readers decide.
10%(what ive viewed) of the SCs ive seen on this site have been ported mildly enough to not care about the debate. That leaves 90% who are listening to you guys post these GREAT gains that never existed. Its not even comparable to dropping a pulley size.
Ok man, you just keep proving how much of an ass you being everytime you type. Everyone was ready to drop it and you come back thinking your all hot shot and say the same **** you have been saying the entire time, no new info.
Like I said I have nothing to prove to you believe me or dont, Im through with it. I dont even own a cobalt anymore so Im not sure why I got pulled into this. I guess Im just sick of seeing you search google and post som equations, that if I met you in real life and sat you in a room you wouldnt even be able to use the the extent you so vigorously think you can.
Just keep posting, after I finish typing this post right here, Im not even going to bother coming back in this thread and continue to give you the supposed satisfaction you get from continuing to repeat yourself
you had to open your mouth.... wow
Lets continue on then shall we?
This is debatable, but with the minimal port job in question, not enough of a gain/loss to mention.
qft
[QUOTE=BOOSSTED 06;2571036]
The problem is you assume that everythign on paper is always definitive and that everyone was porting like the other 2 pictures. Dont assume you know more then everyone all the time. Some of us here actually did this the right way when we did do it.
Your assuming now, and that is a fact (^^^). You saying i assumed something, is an opinion. BIG difference. I could keep nailing that coffin down if you want, just keep pushing. I have no problem going in to the nitty gritty on why its almost not worth it.
Acting like you added anything more than disinformation throughout this thread is obsurd looking back on it. In fact, what information did you post?
20 degree iat2 drops? <----- this will never happen
7 hp? <------ maybe possible but i wouldnt get my hopes up.
worth it? ill let readers decide.
10%(what ive viewed) of the SCs ive seen on this site have been ported mildly enough to not care about the debate. That leaves 90% who are listening to you guys post these GREAT gains that never existed. Its not even comparable to dropping a pulley size.
Like I said I have nothing to prove to you believe me or dont, Im through with it. I dont even own a cobalt anymore so Im not sure why I got pulled into this. I guess Im just sick of seeing you search google and post som equations, that if I met you in real life and sat you in a room you wouldnt even be able to use the the extent you so vigorously think you can.
Just keep posting, after I finish typing this post right here, Im not even going to bother coming back in this thread and continue to give you the supposed satisfaction you get from continuing to repeat yourself
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I guess I'll throw in my final 2cents....
When I ported my SC;
On the outlet, I did a straight cut port on the vertical mill. I shaved off 0.218" (7/32) inches at the wide end, tapering to 0.062" (1/16) at the narrow end. I then blended the edge into the existing curve. From there, the inside was given a minor chamfer, mainly to deburr and edges that may have formed from the milling process.
The outside was given a deeper chamfer, which was then radiused upon final preparation.
The inlet, was bored out a significant amount. It was fully deburred, and all sharp corners were radiused. The end was port matched to my throttle body as well. The entire throat was then finished with a 600 grit flap wheel on final prep, in a cross flow fashion, similar to the preferred finish on ported heads.
When I ported my SC;
On the outlet, I did a straight cut port on the vertical mill. I shaved off 0.218" (7/32) inches at the wide end, tapering to 0.062" (1/16) at the narrow end. I then blended the edge into the existing curve. From there, the inside was given a minor chamfer, mainly to deburr and edges that may have formed from the milling process.
The outside was given a deeper chamfer, which was then radiused upon final preparation.
The inlet, was bored out a significant amount. It was fully deburred, and all sharp corners were radiused. The end was port matched to my throttle body as well. The entire throat was then finished with a 600 grit flap wheel on final prep, in a cross flow fashion, similar to the preferred finish on ported heads.
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