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Old 07-03-2008, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rrutter81
LMFAO

ford lightnings, mustangs, etc do not show what a cobalt gains. The bottleneck in those vehicles are not the same as our cobalt.

again.....

Please show me a single cobalt owner who gained a single HP from this port job, because it didnt happen.



If anyone did gain 5 hp you wouldnt "notice" it and its not as much as you would gain by porting the intake.

First... your talking to the intake manifold guy... I'm well aware of the bottle neck. But I'm telling you that regardless of the bottle neck, the ported blower, extended the efficiency range of the blower, resulting in a cooler intake charge than a non ported blower.

Besides that, we have already had a few members state that Euthanasias ported blower was dyno'd and netted 7WHP.
Although I don't rely on dyno data myself, I think it's enough to show that it is a worthy modification.
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Originally Posted by BOOSSTED 06
Again you keep saying the same thing.

Please show us where on the STAG site it says you wont gain anything from porting the cobalt M62 blower
I think you have this the wrong way guy,

There is nothing on the site that shows you gain anything. Just because I dont see on the site to not cut out the triangle, doesnt mean it wont screw up your SC.

These "GREAT" gains your talking about is 7 whp.......

Jesus, the weather can make that kind of difference on a dyno.

Originally Posted by Omega_5
First... your talking to the intake manifold guy... I'm well aware of the bottle neck. But I'm telling you that regardless of the bottle neck, the ported blower, extended the efficiency range of the blower, resulting in a cooler intake charge than a non ported blower.

Besides that, we have already had a few members state that Euthanasias ported blower was dyno'd and netted 7WHP.
Although I don't rely on dyno data myself, I think it's enough to show that it is a worthy modification.
What are the #s of the IAT drops?

How much $$$ did you spend for 7 whp? (giving you the benefit of the doubt)

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Old 07-03-2008, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rrutter81
These "GREAT" gains your talking about is 7 whp.......

Jesus, the weather can make that kind of difference on a dyno.



What are the #s of the IAT drops?

How much $$$ did you spend for 7 whp? (giving you the benefit of the doubt)
First... if you suddenly realized that a dyno is not an accurate tool, why did you ask for dyno sheets to begin with?
I have yet to see an intake that will make a clear 7WHP gain... does that mean it doesn't work?

Next, the IAT's are dependent on pulley size and other modifications... it's not a set number, so I can't post a set number.
I did not spend anything more than a few hours on the computer, and another few hours on the milling machine... so to me the porting was a 'free mod'.
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rrutter81, you're ******* retarded.

I usually don't like being a name calling ass hole, but if you are going to sit here and argue that Porting and Polishing doesn't help out the M62 (Or ANY Roots blower)... then you are probably one of the dumbest people on this site, much less, this thread. Honestly.

......I'm not even going to get started with this argument. Arguing with you is like arguing with a Fence Post.
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Im glad OMEGA is finally spouting his knowledge. One day it will get through to rrutter
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Originally Posted by rrutter81
why did he port the silencer holes?
The Silencer holes are not ported. It might look like it is because of the casting being polished.
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
The Silencer holes are not ported. It might look like it is because of the casting being polished.
ah k, it looked mild if it was, definitley proffesional.




BTW: there is nothing on this site that will convince me your mere 5hp -5 degree IAT drop (guestimate) is worth a port/polish.

I could use an icebox on my CAI and gain better results.
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Originally Posted by rrutter81
ah k, it looked mild if it was, definitley proffesional.




BTW: there is nothing on this site that will convince me your mere 5hp -5 degree IAT drop (guestimate) is worth a port/polish.

I could use an icebox on my CAI and gain better results.
So...don't port/polish your blower - go nuts...and use the icebox on your CAI.
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Originally Posted by rrutter81
ah k, it looked mild if it was, definitley proffesional.




BTW: there is nothing on this site that will convince me your mere 5hp -5 degree IAT drop (guestimate) is worth a port/polish.

I could use an icebox on my CAI and gain better results.


On the car we did the stock vs ported sc on the iat2's dropped enough for us to put 2 more degrees of timing in it to get those Gaines. And we see any where from 10-18 degree drop in the iat2's with the ported sc. And many members on here that have my ported sc on there car also see almost instant peak boost when they hit the gas. Plus the new port design I am useing shows no loss of boost with the same iat2 drop.
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It's funny how rrutter81 calls it a "Heaton", and then calls everyone "retarded" or a "Noob" and professes that everyone who opposes him is wrong.

My S/C:
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you can hit peak boost instantly via hpt tweaking.
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All I can say from here on out on this thread is
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
On the car we did the stock vs ported sc on the iat2's dropped enough for us to put 2 more degrees of timing in it to get those Gaines. And we see any where from 10-18 degree drop in the iat2's with the ported sc. And many members on here that have my ported sc on there car also see almost instant peak boost when they hit the gas. Plus the new port design I am useing shows no loss of boost with the same iat2 drop.
your saying your ported blower drops as much temp as a H/E?

and wonder why i call b.s.?

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you can hit peak boost instantly via hpt tweaking.
qft.

Originally Posted by 06' SS2SS
It's funny how rrutter81 calls it a "Heaton", and then calls everyone "retarded" or a "Noob" and professes that everyone who opposes him is wrong.

My S/C:
you have added what to this thread?

Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
rrutter81, you're ******* retarded.

I usually don't like being a name calling ass hole, but if you are going to sit here and argue that Porting and Polishing doesn't help out the M62 (Or ANY Roots blower)... then you are probably one of the dumbest people on this site, much less, this thread. Honestly.
Port and polishing a blower that is clogged by a restricted intake and already has maximum CFM being pushed vs displacement is dumb.

Like putting a pocket fan that blows against the wall

and comparing it with some giant factory fan that can lift a car


and saying that the giant factory fan pushes more cfm THROUGH that very same wall..... that is my problem.


My other problem is the newb exposition of people who cant pass 3rd grade science. Anyone with the iq of a carrot can get it....by all means stand by your ported SC gains

meh not an accurate analogy but it achieves the same results

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Old 07-03-2008, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rrutter81
you have added what to this thread?

He's added much more than you have...

I'm not going to respond to your other points, because I have already answered them in this thread. If your too much of a noob to read, that's your problem.
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Originally Posted by rrutter81
ah k, it looked mild if it was, definitley proffesional.




BTW: there is nothing on this site that will convince me your mere 5hp -5 degree IAT drop (guestimate) is worth a port/polish.

I could use an icebox on my CAI and gain better results.
Meh...I agree that if you don't port it yourself then it's not really worth the cost...but do you have a dry ice factory for that icebox? I can tell you this much...you won't get any gains from the polish, but it may be the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
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Originally Posted by rrutter81
you have added what to this thread?
Pictures! And everyone likes pictures.
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wow my thread got jacked up son!
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Originally Posted by restonSS
wow my thread got jacked up son!
nah, there are some helpful tips in here somewhere
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read through the crap and there is some good info. ha ha i ported my blower so i could run down the 1/4 mile and not lose as much hp from heat soak... o ya and it was free. 2 hp for free is better than 5hp for 300 bucks any day of the week.
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Originally Posted by restonSS
wow my thread got jacked up son!
**** happens, thts pretty funny tho
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Originally Posted by freakta
read through the crap and there is some good info. ha ha i ported my blower so i could run down the 1/4 mile and not lose as much hp from heat soak... o ya and it was free. 2 hp for free is better than 5hp for 300 bucks any day of the week.
agree wish i could get mine done and done right for free
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Originally Posted by 07SCCobaltSS
agree wish i could get mine done and done right for free


you can

do it yourself... just make sure you read up on it.... (i dont mean like 1 nite, research it for a week or so)

if im not busy later i will post up some links and how to's
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yeah, if only i trusted myself enough to do that haha
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To make the M62 most efficient all you have to do is plug the silencer holes. That's it. Straight from Eaton themselves.
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lol i have heard otherwise from a few eaton guys myself


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