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06-25-2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BACK2GM
Well if stage1 reflash rasies the limiter to 7000 what does stage2 reflash do?
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06-25-2006, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BACK2GM
Well if stage1 reflash rasies the limiter to 7000 what does stage2 reflash do?
06-25-2006, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
Stage 2 reflash. some will argue there is no difference in the reflash then I ask them why is it offered in stage 1 and the kit that takes you from stage 1 to stage 2? I know it is different as I know technicians who are familiar with the reflash. but the better thing to do is get HP Tuners software. end of story.
06-26-2006, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by max_boost
I know there is NO differences becuase I've looked at both a Stage 1 and Stage 2 tune in HPTuners and there is exactly zero differences.
06-26-2006, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
well just so you know - it is very easy for the a car to get stage 2 or stage 1 reflash when it should get the other. why? cause the tech needs to pay attention and the person on the other end of the phone has to give out the right reflash. it is stupid but it happens. alot of techs can do this mistake honestly or the mistake was reliant upon the person giving out the reflash. As I said I can only go by what GM techs have shared with me.
06-26-2006, 11:36 AM
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Well, from my experence scanning numerous cars here is what I found.
STAGE 1 TUNE is EXACTLY THE SAME AS STAGE 2 TUNE. BOTH COBALTS AND IONS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS THE MODEL YEAR STUFF 04 TO 05 TO 06 FOR EACH CAR.
example:
Torque management
04 Ions use kPa... Supercharger desired MAP vs RPM
06 Cobalts use ft.lbs.... Supercharger desired TORQUE vs RPM
MAF and VE tables are different per year, but when comparing STAGE 1 to STAGE 2 of the same model year, the calibrations are the same for the Stage 1 and 2 reflash's.
I scanned 5 stage 2 cars(3 cobalts and 2 ions). I scanned 4 stage 1 cars(2cobalts and 2 ions) and verified that all the cars mentioned above have the same reflash with Hp tuners when doing a direct compare log. It's been discussed numerous times here on the board. Heck, most people build off the stage2 tune and add there tweaks to gain even more power. That's what I did on Max_boost's car. The stage 2 tune is good, but there is sooooo much more you can add to it and improve.
STAGE 1 TUNE is EXACTLY THE SAME AS STAGE 2 TUNE. BOTH COBALTS AND IONS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS THE MODEL YEAR STUFF 04 TO 05 TO 06 FOR EACH CAR.
example:
Torque management
04 Ions use kPa... Supercharger desired MAP vs RPM
06 Cobalts use ft.lbs.... Supercharger desired TORQUE vs RPM
MAF and VE tables are different per year, but when comparing STAGE 1 to STAGE 2 of the same model year, the calibrations are the same for the Stage 1 and 2 reflash's.
I scanned 5 stage 2 cars(3 cobalts and 2 ions). I scanned 4 stage 1 cars(2cobalts and 2 ions) and verified that all the cars mentioned above have the same reflash with Hp tuners when doing a direct compare log. It's been discussed numerous times here on the board. Heck, most people build off the stage2 tune and add there tweaks to gain even more power. That's what I did on Max_boost's car. The stage 2 tune is good, but there is sooooo much more you can add to it and improve.
06-26-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ENUFPWR
Well, from my experence scanning numerous cars here is what I found.
STAGE 1 TUNE is EXACTLY THE SAME AS STAGE 2 TUNE. BOTH COBALTS AND IONS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS THE MODEL YEAR STUFF 04 TO 05 TO 06 FOR EACH CAR.
example:
Torque management
04 Ions use kPa... Supercharger desired MAP vs RPM
06 Cobalts use ft.lbs.... Supercharger desired TORQUE vs RPM
MAF and VE tables are different per year, but when comparing STAGE 1 to STAGE 2 of the same model year, the calibrations are the same for the Stage 1 and 2 reflash's.
I scanned 5 stage 2 cars(3 cobalts and 2 ions). I scanned 4 stage 1 cars(2cobalts and 2 ions) and verified that all the cars mentioned above have the same reflash with Hp tuners when doing a direct compare log. It's been discussed numerous times here on the board. Heck, most people build off the stage2 tune and add there tweaks to gain even more power. That's what I did on Max_boost's car. The stage 2 tune is good, but there is sooooo much more you can add to it and improve.
STAGE 1 TUNE is EXACTLY THE SAME AS STAGE 2 TUNE. BOTH COBALTS AND IONS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS THE MODEL YEAR STUFF 04 TO 05 TO 06 FOR EACH CAR.
example:
Torque management
04 Ions use kPa... Supercharger desired MAP vs RPM
06 Cobalts use ft.lbs.... Supercharger desired TORQUE vs RPM
MAF and VE tables are different per year, but when comparing STAGE 1 to STAGE 2 of the same model year, the calibrations are the same for the Stage 1 and 2 reflash's.
I scanned 5 stage 2 cars(3 cobalts and 2 ions). I scanned 4 stage 1 cars(2cobalts and 2 ions) and verified that all the cars mentioned above have the same reflash with Hp tuners when doing a direct compare log. It's been discussed numerous times here on the board. Heck, most people build off the stage2 tune and add there tweaks to gain even more power. That's what I did on Max_boost's car. The stage 2 tune is good, but there is sooooo much more you can add to it and improve.
06-26-2006, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SS_SC_Cobalt
I thought the stage reflash could not be changed? Didnt I read it has a 0 identifier?
Heck, you can copy the stage tune to other cars.... I know GM doesn't like to hear that, but it's very easy with this software.
06-26-2006, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ENUFPWR
Yes you can change the stage tune with HPtuners.
Heck, you can copy the stage tune to other cars.... I know GM doesn't like to hear that, but it's very easy with this software.
Heck, you can copy the stage tune to other cars.... I know GM doesn't like to hear that, but it's very easy with this software.
I thought I heard that the stage flash was locked, lol
guess it was the eco s/c kit reflash I was confusing with it!
06-26-2006, 01:39 PM
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I stand corrected on the difference of the flashes.
Good to hear that the stage flash can be tweaked. There is only a few places I would like it changed or smoothed out.
Good to hear that the stage flash can be tweaked. There is only a few places I would like it changed or smoothed out.
06-26-2006, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS313
whats so great about this perticular 2.8" pulley is it different than the other ones. was really reading up on this thread so i missed alot.
06-28-2006, 12:21 AM
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So, xenonz, did you hit up the track yet? Im definitely thinking about getting a 2.8" pulley, but was waiting to see what type of results they gave. Fill me in man, Im dying to know!
07-12-2006, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DTM2188
Need help ASAP. How do I get some slack out of the belt? Where is the tensioner located exactly?
07-13-2006, 05:17 PM
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So I have a new SS/SC and we are haveing the Stage 2 installed, but I want to go to a PB 2.8" pulley right after. If I get a 1 step colder plug, is there anything else I need?
07-13-2006, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SS SChgd
So I have a new SS/SC and we are haveing the Stage 2 installed, but I want to go to a PB 2.8" pulley right after. If I get a 1 step colder plug, is there anything else I need?
then by adding the 2.8 PB Pulley it even made it worse so i had to do someting & I really like the Stiffy mount & it mounts right above your stock upper motor mount so it just adds to the rigidity of the stock mount !
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