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Old 07-26-2007, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PuSha050
lets not forget, if u mod like you say(2.6, full exhaust, etc) then decide to go turbo, some of those mods are a waste (new exhuast manifold and downpipe, etc)
thats my main reasoning for going this route.
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
I'm not even getting into a FWD war. IMO you don't need more then 300whp in a FWD car. There's no point because you can't plant it to the ground.

As for the TS. You like it? Buy it. You want me to praise it? Keep dreaming.
this is what i was saying tho.. u dont feel the need for it.. but thousands of others do.. accept that fact
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Wait for my dyno then...
cool. be sure to do it on an untampered dyno

500whp on an M62. your a crazy dude
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Originally Posted by PuSha050
this is what i was saying tho.. u dont feel the need for it.. but thousands of others do.. accept that fact
You seriously think a thousand people are going to buy this kit? They won't sell 10 and you can quote me on it.
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
I'm not even getting into a FWD war. IMO you don't need more then 300whp in a FWD car. There's no point because you can't plant it to the ground. .
tell that to the SRT-4 guys

thats why god and mickey thompson collaborated to make slicks
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You guys know the new blower twinscrew swap is already set up with a dual pass right? No H/E though. That is why the GMP dual pass does not work with this new set up. They had to make their own custom dual pass. Just some heads up.
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^^ no, i didnt know that.
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
You seriously think a thousand people are going to buy this kit? They won't sell 10 and you can quote me on it.
that quote had nothing to do with this kit.. u said power in fwd is pointless, i said thousands of people dont think so.

just bc u think something doesnt mean every1 else thinks the same way

Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
You guys know the new blower twinscrew swap is already set up with a dual pass right? No H/E though. That is why the GMP dual pass does not work with this new set up. They had to make their own custom dual pass. Just some heads up.
forgot about that as well

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Old 07-26-2007, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PuSha050
u said power in fwd is pointless,
Over a certain amount is pointless. There's only so much you can put to the ground with FWD.

SRT4 = LSD standard. We don't have that luxury. Ever try to plant 300whp through 1 wheel?
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
Over a certain amount is pointless. There's only so much you can put to the ground with FWD.

SRT4 = LSD standard. We don't have that luxury. Ever try to plant 300whp through 1 wheel?
seen it done.. srtgirl or whatever her name is had/has (havent checked in over a yr) like 430whp and ran mid 11's, and didnt have LSD (she had an 03)

lets not forget the woman who had 630whp in her srt on here a long time ago.. forget her name.. but i bet she would laugh at ur comment of power in a fwd is pointless
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There are a lot of us that have LSD though.
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
There are a lot of us that have LSD though.
yeah, but theres a solution if you didnt... for about $1,200 you can get an LSD, and it would be money well spent if you were pushing over 300whp
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
Over a certain amount is pointless. There's only so much you can put to the ground with FWD.

SRT4 = LSD standard. We don't have that luxury. Ever try to plant 300whp through 1 wheel?
Apparently the Gardnell racing team dont think so (however you spell there name)
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Originally Posted by PuSha050
lets not forget the woman who had 630whp in her srt on here a long time ago.. forget her name.. but i bet she would laugh at ur comment of power in a fwd is pointless
Her name is Lucy and her tag name is LittleMT
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yah i plan on getting the twin screw. look at it, it made 280 on a conservative tune with a 6k redline but there is still room to grow, you can barely make 300whp with the eaton and its maxed out.
to each their own opinon if you dont want a twin screw the dont get one, but if you dont want one then get the f**k out of the thread cause there is no need to post in it
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Come on Onyx, you're making all of us RL guys look bad. Oh well...at least Alpha and I are nice (98% of the time).
As for power in FWD, how is it pointless? I just went from my rental ION 2 (2.2L) back to my IRL, and the power isn't pointless ...Oh wait, I sprung for the Competition Package
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Would the 1600 fit under the hood? Are there any downsides to usin that one over the 1200? My guess is it takes more hp to run. I remember blown4banger said he was gettin a better twin screw then the 1200 and im guessin the 1600 is it. Do they still make em cuz he said that he had trouble findin one?
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
^^ no, i didnt know that.
You know why you did not know that? (Not blaming you at all)

To many people who are not even intereted in this swap are comming in here and saying pointless off topic things. This thread is going to get out of hand and its going to **** more then a few people off.

Who cares about LSD info and to much whp in a FWD car and bleh bleh bleh. This thread is meant for questions and concerns about the swap itself.

So back on topic, for those who did not know. A daul pass it designed with this swap. It was a custom made dual pass because the GMP dual pass only works for the M62. If you want even better cooling results you can add a H/E. As of now though it looks like it does not need it because it runs about 50 deg. colder than the M62 in 90 deg weather. It was very hot and hummid on dyno day. I would expect about 30 more whp with exhaust and tuned to 7k rpm. I would even bet to say it will be over 300whp on less boost to 7k rpm and exhaust with a tune. Only time will tell.

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Would the 1600 fit under the hood? Are there any downsides to usin that one over the 1200? My guess is it takes more hp to run. I remember blown4banger said he was gettin a better twin screw then the 1200 and im guessin the 1600 is it. Do they still make em cuz he said that he had trouble findin one?
As for the 1200 v.s. the 1600, I would be willing to say it doesnt matter because the 1600 will not bolt right on to this new swap. Alot of things are custom and I also agree that the 1600 would take more power to run.

The main point here is running 300whp safely. IMO that is a very awesome accoplishment. Yea some peeps may push a tad over 300whp with the M62 but they are not running a 2.9 pulley. Not to mention those M62 guys with 300whp have meth, least a 2.6, and alot of other supporting mods. That just leaves tons of improvment with the new swap. Again though, this kit was not made for massive hp. It was meant to get over the 300whp mark without any major mods. You could get a stock SS/SC, do the swap add some small bolt ons with a tune and your over 300whp. Assuming they hit those numbers with exhaust and tune next.

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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Her name is Lucy and her tag name is LittleMT
haha it was killin me all morning

Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
The main point here is running 300whp safely. IMO that is a very awesome accoplishment. Yea some peeps may push a tad over 300whp with the M62 but they are not running a 2.9 pulley. Not to mention those M62 guys with 300whp have meth, least a 2.6, and alot of other supporting mods. That just leaves tons of improvment with the new swap. Again though, this kit was not made for massive hp. It was meant to get over the 300whp mark without any major mods. You could get a stock SS/SC, do the swap add some small bolt ons with a tune and your over 300whp. Assuming they hit those numbers with exhaust and tune next.
that is what i like about the kit the most.. power, reliability, neat package

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Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
You know why you did not know that? (Not blaming you at all)

To many people who are not even intereted in this swap are comming in here and saying pointless off topic things. This thread is going to get out of hand and its going to **** more then a few people off.

I would expect about 30 more whp with exhaust and tuned to 7k rpm.



As for the 1200 v.s. the 1600, I would be willing to say it doesnt matter because the 1600 will not bolt right on to this new swap. Alot of things are custom and I also agree that the 1600 would take more power to run.

The main point here is running 300whp safely. IMO that is a very awesome accoplishment. Yea some peeps may push a tad over 300whp with the M62 but they are not running a 2.9 pulley. Not to mention those M62 guys with 300whp have meth, least a 2.6, and alot of other supporting mods. That just leaves tons of improvment with the new swap. Again though, this kit was not made for massive hp. It was meant to get over the 300whp mark without any major mods. You could get a stock SS/SC, do the swap add some small bolt ons with a tune and your over 300whp. Assuming they hit those numbers with exhaust and tune next.
(Not blaming you at all) - im not easily offended, no offense taken.

they didnt even go to the 6,500 rpm stock redline.. it'd be nice to see them take it all the way with an exhaust.

i think hp #s are really irrelevant, we need to be looking at it like this:
for 3k, plus torque damper, and maybe some motor mounts, you can run a 12 in your cobalt ss s/c.
$20,000(car)+$3,000(swap)+lets say$750(good supporting mods-not necessary, but a good idea)=$23,750=12 second passes @ probably 112+mph
i like this kit

oh, and it will be pretty reliable!(bonus)

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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
(Not blaming you at all) - im not easily offended, no offense taken.

they didnt even go to the 6,500 rpm stock redline.. it'd be nice to see them take it all the way with an exhaust.

i think hp #s are really irrelevant, we need to be looking at it like this:
for 3k, plus torque damper, and maybe some motor mounts, you can run a 12 in your cobalt ss s/c.
$20,000(car)+$3,000(swap)+lets say$750(good supporting mods-not necessary, but a good idea)=$23,750=12 second passes @ probably 112+mph
i like this kit

oh, and it will be pretty reliable!(bonus)

dont for get to mention slicks or d/r unless they were under good but not necesary butim pretty sure they are necessary. it be tough but axels might be a problem too. just my thoughts. i need to get them really bad myself lol.


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