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Running a 2.8" pulley with the Stage 2 injectors; OK or dangerous?

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Old 01-14-2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LSJFury
So to summarize everything so far, 2.8 on 42# MAY be OK but it's a gamble and definitely safer to go with 60# + custom tune, but 2.9" on 42# should be fine, right? If so, I might be shooting for a 2.9"...

Let me know if I'm right or not about the 2.9" thing.
That's about sums it up.
Old 01-16-2007, 01:02 PM
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ive heard so much about 42lb on a 2.8 thats why i decided to go with the 50lb injectors. not a big difference but hopefully my IDC wont be over 90% or 100!
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Originally Posted by LSJFury
So to summarize everything so far, 2.8 on 42# MAY be OK but it's a gamble and definitely safer to go with 60# + custom tune, but 2.9" on 42# should be fine, right? If so, I might be shooting for a 2.9"...

Let me know if I'm right or not about the 2.9" thing.
You got it bud. That's what I did.
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I'd upgrade injectors. I believe my friend said hes at like 98% idc with his gm stage 2 and 2.8.
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I'd like to throw something in on this also. I've been watching this thread because I too an about to upgrade to a smaller pulley for my stage 2 and am undecided. I've gone away from the 2.8" because seems most likely the 42lbers will be maxed out and the car will most likely be really lean. What I would like to know is if the 2.85" as stated previously in this thread would be safe or not on 42 lb injectors or should I do the 2.9"? Would .05 of an inch in diameter make enough difference anyway?
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Originally Posted by dervin3
I'd like to throw something in on this also. I've been watching this thread because I too an about to upgrade to a smaller pulley for my stage 2 and am undecided. I've gone away from the 2.8" because seems most likely the 42lbers will be maxed out and the car will most likely be really lean. What I would like to know is if the 2.85" as stated previously in this thread would be safe or not on 42 lb injectors or should I do the 2.9"? Would .05 of an inch in diameter make enough difference anyway?
It won't be lean. The debate on this issue is the IDC going past 90% with the combination of the 2.8/ 42.5# injectors.
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Originally Posted by Matty
It won't be lean. The debate on this issue is the IDC going past 90% with the combination of the 2.8/ 42.5# injectors.
So you're saying I'd be safe with a 2.85"?
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I've been watching this thread and looked at many other past ones too about this topic. It seems like so many are using 2.8 on stage 2 injectors... Then there are people saying that the injectors are "overworking" or can't supply enough.

I don't know, it would be nice if someone had the answer. I'd be safe and stick with the stage 2 pulley unless you would upgrade your injectors.


I'm probably sticking to stage 2 pulley when I get it, although 2.9 is mighty tempting.
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Originally Posted by dervin3
So you're saying I'd be safe with a 2.85"?
You won't run out of fuel. My wideband said low 11's with the stage 2 tune and the 2.8".

The issue is Injector Duty Cycle and the possibility of the injectors going static (staying wide open). Nobody has had a problem with this that I know of, but there are opinions that it is just a matter of time.

Being safe= stock 3" pulley
Taking a chance= 2.8"

Safer with a 2.85. Safer yet with a 2.9.
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Originally Posted by Matty
You won't run out of fuel. My wideband said low 11's with the stage 2 tune and the 2.8".

The issue is Injector Duty Cycle and the possibility of the injectors going static (staying wide open). Nobody has had a problem with this that I know of, but there are opinions that it is just a matter of time.

Being safe= stock 3" pulley
Taking a chance= 2.8"

Safer with a 2.85. Safer yet with a 2.9.
Thank you, just what I wanted to hear. I'm getting the 2.9 now. Headed to the dyno on the 30th to see how it does. Hopefully I'm not already lean because in the past week I've probably thrown P0171 ten times...hopefully that's just my K&N intakes MAF sensor placement.
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Ok, here is the answer. Nobody can tell you because every car acts differently. Now that being said, be smart and get an aeroforce interceptor and a wideband. With those you will be able to tell if the 42's and 2.8 combo work good on your car. And I dare to say that anybody that melted a piston did not have a wideband.
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Originally Posted by dervin3
Thank you, just what I wanted to hear. I'm getting the 2.9 now. Headed to the dyno on the 30th to see how it does. Hopefully I'm not already lean because in the past week I've probably thrown P0171 ten times...hopefully that's just my K&N intakes MAF sensor placement.
No sweat.
Hopefully the dyno has a wideband connection to watch all areas of the RPM range.
Make a thread after it's done.
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Originally Posted by Shortbus
I was runing a 2.7 with 42s# for a while, then i got smart and went to 60s# me and a friend did a log file on hp tuners, my idc was 122% at 5k rpms, iam currently runing any where from 17-19.5 lbs of boost.
Shortbus,

Got a question for ya. I was talking to someone about this very same thing and they asked me how HPT can say the injectors are running over 100% IDC. Can IDC actually be measured past 100%?
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Originally Posted by Edubs
Shortbus,

Got a question for ya. I was talking to someone about this very same thing and they asked me how HPT can say the injectors are running over 100% IDC. Can IDC actually be measured past 100%?
Yes, HPT does measure injector duty past max.
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