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Old 12-29-2009, 11:10 AM
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awesome fab work n great idea for two h/e. i would weanna do that to my car eventually.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
good stuff man...

i think the dual exchangers is a waste on a regular system, but your single pass system may actually benefit from it.

instead of adding more exchangers, you should look into getting your biggest exchanger coated in TLTD, it's fairly cheap and can increase cooling efficiency up to 30%
That's what I used on my manifold. I've been useing TLTD and other thermal barriers for years on my Mustang's. They work great.
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whats TLTD?
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Originally Posted by BeermanSSSC
whats TLTD?
Took this from my friend's site.

Thermal Dispersants

Being able to move and control heat is of tremendous importance. Excessive temperature can lead to metal fatigue, boiling fluids, damaging metal expansion, reduce electrical efficiency and a host of other problems. Traditionally dealing with heat has been handled either by expanding the radiating surface, constructing parts from materials that are more heat conductive and using the color black. With advances in thermal management methods additional ways of enhancing heat transfer now exist. Our supplier, TECH LINE has developed a Thermal Management System™ . Individual products such as TLTD can be utilized by themselves or in conjunction with other coatings to manage the flow of heat. TLTD is capable of transferring heat faster than the bare metal surface. While TLTD does make use of the color black, TLTD is more than a simple "black body" heat emitting coating. TLTD includes ingredients that also contribute to increased heat flow. Combining these properties with increased corrosion protection and the thin film application technique, maximizes thermal transfer capabilities. Effective on Brakes, Intake Manifolds, Cylinder Heads, Oil Pans, Radiators, Intercoolers and more.

Certain Dry Film Lubricants we apply are capable of reducing part temperature not only through the reduction of friction but also through increased thermal flow. The active ingredients accelerate the movement of heat. This is especially beneficial on valve springs where excess heat can lead to accelerated fatigue and in some instance breakage.
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wow, that is interesting. Cool product. Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
That's what I used on my manifold. I've been useing TLTD and other thermal barriers for years on my Mustang's. They work great.


yeah man that stuff s the effin bomb! i had an mk3 supra, 554whp 517wtq (yeah that's right the mk3's actually had torque lol) and had the intercooler coated in that and it dropped my charge air temps by amost 30 degrees on hot days and 25 degrees on cooler days. no other changes at all
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
That's what I used on my manifold. I've been useing TLTD and other thermal barriers for years on my Mustang's. They work great.
i like how your single pass points downwards... helps out a bit
Old 12-29-2009, 04:04 PM
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omfg

OMFG im ******* retarded im looking at the pic's and like how the hell is it getting out lol i see i see lol felt like a retard cause i was like what the hell is everyone looking at got it got it

anyway nice man your dad looks like this guy who helped me take my cat outta my stocker for 25 bucks good work and everything too.

BE sure to give him a big hug and a new pack of smokes them ***** are pricey now 7 bucks

also on topic what where the temp numbers now and what where they before!?!?!?

also what did you coat your intake mani with? sorry might be a dumb question but i didnt see what it was other then it lowered ait
Old 12-29-2009, 05:44 PM
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congrats flatgod, that is some superb craftsmanship! Glad I could help out with the info.

also, thanks for the info on the TLTD to everyone else.
Old 12-29-2009, 07:26 PM
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Thanks for your help Ralli
My question about the TLTD would be, if I'm running Killer Chiller and the fluid is cooler than ambient the would the TLTD make my HE absorb heat and warm my fluid?
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Originally Posted by Flatgod
Thanks for your help Ralli
My question about the TLTD would be, if I'm running Killer Chiller and the fluid is cooler than ambient the would the TLTD make my HE absorb heat and warm my fluid?
that will happen no matter what if the fluid is colder than ambient temps
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Of course but faster than without it is what I meant.
Old 12-30-2009, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Flatgod
Of course but faster than without it is what I meant.
oh lol sorry, that's a good question.... reasonable deduction would say yes, but there could be some kind of variable that someone experienced in the area could enter into the equation that would throw my guess off
Old 12-30-2009, 11:33 AM
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Very nice!
Old 01-31-2010, 11:36 PM
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In regards to bending the dipstick tube and the Starter to alt lead. I managed to carefully bend the tube in a fashion so I will be able to mount it back in the original bolt hole with a shim on the bolt. Since I'm running the phenolic spacer I was able to run the alt/starter wire behind the LIM without putting tension on the line

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whew, that's in there tight!
Old 01-31-2010, 11:57 PM
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Ya, I also want to insulate the hoses so when the KC unit is running I'm not taking on heat under the hood and dripping condensation all over the track. So things are about to get a lot tighter under there LOL.
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so you got the killer chiller?
Old 02-01-2010, 07:12 PM
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Have it, hoping to install it this weekend. Wont have it hooked up to the AC till the car can leave my garage though.
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ok ive never seen this before, how does this work?
is it like dual pass?
whatre the benefits from it?
i ask this because i dont do much modding to my balt and was just curious.
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In simple terms. The lower intake manifold on the LSJ has four laminova cores that are designed to cool the intake air after the super charger.
In the stock intake manifold, the fluid passes though it four times before exiting allowing it to heat up more with each pass resulting in higher air intake temperatures. Higher AIT's=less dense, hot air=more knock retard= less power.
The dual pass endplate reroutes the fluid so it only travels though the manifold twice before exiting.
The single pass manifold only passes the fluid though once before exiting optimizing the cooling efficiency of the stock air/water manifold.
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Originally Posted by Flatgod
Have it, hoping to install it this weekend. Wont have it hooked up to the AC till the car can leave my garage though.
awesome. do me a favor and pm me any results you get with it. I know it works, cobra guys have seen pretty decent results. But I'm just curious as there hasn't really been any reporting from any cobalt owners. I plan to get one as well, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I'm the one that bugged them to offer our cars one.
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My tuner Rippin07 has it. He's the guy that sold me on it. IIRC he saw a 50* coolant temp drop in minutes once turned on. I'm really stoked to see what kind of AIT's I'll be seeing with this setup.
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Originally Posted by Flatgod
My tuner Rippin07 has it. He's the guy that sold me on it. IIRC he saw a 50* coolant temp drop in minutes once turned on. I'm really stoked to see what kind of AIT's I'll be seeing with this setup.
50*, lmfao, why the **** have I waited so long to buy one. that's just absurd. No worries when that thing is on.


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