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Old 02-20-2007 | 02:29 PM
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MAF-T.... throw that thing out mman... shi is worthless these days
What do you mean?? Now I'm lost. I installed the meth like this (plus a solonoid (injected after TB)):

Old 02-20-2007 | 03:09 PM
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oh the maf controller... I swore you said maf-t (intense box thingy)

that power for the maf-t , I used the 12v lead to the MAF sensor and main power from the fuse box...
it's actually a really simple install man..

look up fast06ss 's post on the install he has pics of the wires used for the leads..

my setup took like 30 min to wire up

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Old 02-21-2007 | 11:36 AM
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The links don't work...https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...highlight=meth

I have exactly what is in the picture I posted above. I have it hooked up the same too. For some reason it doesn't work. Time to troubleshoot
Old 02-21-2007 | 11:40 AM
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hmm... I thought the wiring was pretty simple, I dunno 2 wires for the lead from the maf sensor and 2 grounds and 1 main power lead... it's not that bad man.
Old 02-26-2007 | 02:14 PM
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Whoops - nevermind.

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Old 02-28-2007 | 11:51 PM
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Check the fuses!! 1 amp fuse ain't worth $h!t
Old 03-05-2007 | 12:15 PM
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What fuse blew? This is the first instance I have heard of this on the Cobalts - just want to keep up to date.
Old 03-05-2007 | 12:58 PM
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06Blackg85....how hard was it to turn your windshiel washer tank into the tank for your meth, that is an idea I had when I get my meth kit. and ive yet to hear an honest answer meth before blower or after? i think its just personal pref.
Old 03-05-2007 | 02:53 PM
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What fuse blew? This is the first instance I have heard of this on the Cobalts - just want to keep up to date.

I put a fuse between the Controller and power (<<this one blew) and one between the controller and the pump. It was a 1 amp fuse (all I had at the time). I still haven't been able to get it running right. The green LED doesn't even turn on.

Pump works with direct power
Solonoid works with direct power
Pump & Solonoid works together with direct power
Pump & Solonoid & LED works together with direct power
This is as far as I can troubleshoot for now
I have a Multimeter that checks Hz...Do you have any more sugestions?


I'm about to call it quits
Old 03-05-2007 | 03:38 PM
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06Blackg85....how hard was it to turn your windshiel washer tank into the tank for your meth, that is an idea I had when I get my meth kit. and ive yet to hear an honest answer meth before blower or after? i think its just personal pref.
just take your front bumper off (very easy 15-20 minutes) drill a hole in the bottom for the fitting that comes with the tank (1/2" I think) if you use the -20 fluid, you can still use your windsheild washers too...!!. (i used a lot of meth though) I think there was 2-3 10mm bolts that hold the tank in place so it's not bad at all, just mount the pump low though so it has a good feed.

as for fuses.. you need at least a 15 amp on the pump side, the maf box has a circuit breaker built in so you don't need to run a fuse to that, or at least I didn't, and never had a problem with it.

Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
I put a fuse between the Controller and power (<<this one blew) and one between the controller and the pump. It was a 1 amp fuse (all I had at the time). I still haven't been able to get it running right. The green LED doesn't even turn on.

Pump works with direct power
Solonoid works with direct power
Pump & Solonoid works together with direct power
Pump & Solonoid & LED works together with direct power
This is as far as I can troubleshoot for now
I have a Multimeter that checks Hz...Do you have any more sugestions?


I'm about to call it quits
I have a good suggestion... send your kit to me ... lol ..

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Old 03-09-2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by M88ArRamadi
I put a fuse between the Controller and power (<<this one blew) and one between the controller and the pump. It was a 1 amp fuse (all I had at the time). I still haven't been able to get it running right. The green LED doesn't even turn on.

Pump works with direct power
Solonoid works with direct power
Pump & Solonoid works together with direct power
Pump & Solonoid & LED works together with direct power
This is as far as I can troubleshoot for now
I have a Multimeter that checks Hz...Do you have any more sugestions?


I'm about to call it quits
The best suggestion is to follow the instructions on wiring first. That said, you do not need to run a fuse between power and the controller as above stated, the controller has an internal circuit breaker. There is also no need to put a fuse between the controller and the pump, as it is run by the controller so the same circuit breaker covers that as well.

If you had a 1 amp fuse on the power supply to the controller, it would have blown the first time it would have tried to turn on, meaning the system won't get power and inject, so the green light won't turn on.

Try wiring it without the fuses and see what happens. If it doesn't work at that point, we can troubleshoot the next step.
Old 03-13-2007 | 01:38 PM
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Yes, I would love to know how the installation turned out and if any more help is needed.
Old 04-05-2007 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowTech.3
OK, one question at a time.

I don't know the Cobalt wiring enough to say which wire to cut and where - I am sure someone on here can help though.

The wiring goes - Factory MAF output wire with the Hz signal - into our MAFT green wire - the yellow wire from the MAFT connects to the yellow wire on our VC MAF controller.

On your settings, I would bump up that top setting from 4 to 6. You have a super steep delivery curve - it jumps right up to maximum injection amount and could explain some of the bogging.

No dip switches equals the most aggressive delivery curve - the quickest rise in amount with an increase in airflow. Switch #1 is the least aggressive, #2 slightly more aggressive, #3 more aggressive, and #4 4more aggressive, and no switches, again, is the most aggresive.

You do not cut your factory MAF wire - as then the ECU would have no idea how much air is going into the engine! You just jumper it, so that we can read the Hz signal without disrupting what the ECU needs to know.
So we tap the green MAFT wire into the MAF HZ signal wire, or we cut it and then splice it together so than the other end doesnt get back to the pcm.

Option A, MAF Wire coming from engine part ( Tap green MAFT wire here) then back to the MAF.
Option B, MAF wire coming from engine part (Cut here and leave this end to itself, nothing on it) and then use the one coming from the MAF and splice it to the Green MAFT wire.

which one of the two is the right one.

BUMP@! cmon guys im doing this tomorrow~!!!

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Old 04-08-2007 | 10:47 PM
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Thumbs up I did it!!

YES !! I DID IT !!

Alright I completely uninstalled all the wires.....then I reconnected them. This is the 4th (atleast) time I've done this. the only difference is that I cut a zip-tie off the meth line and removed the 20A fuse to the pump.

Ljavy17 <<<^^^ Option A....all you do is tap the yellow wire
FYI

MAF SIGNAL WIRE IS THE YELLOW ONE!!

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