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Old 04-10-2006, 12:17 PM
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Spec Stage 3

hey is anyone running the stage 3 clutch from Spec? if so, please do a write up of how it feels, how it engages, and your opinion. Thanks alot
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I had a stage 3 in my N/A 97 Z24, it enganges very stiff and clean. Clutch pedal is not heavy, very easy to operate. I loved it.
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
I had a stage 3 in my N/A 97 Z24, it enganges very stiff and clean. Clutch pedal is not heavy, very easy to operate. I loved it.
thanks man, was it a Spec clutch though?

and anyone else?
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a close friend of mine has a stage 3 spec in his RL....were geting 260whp outta it and the clutch slips if you to 3rd to hard....it doesnt hold up as well as i exspected and with more power to come we're hopeing that somebody comes to the plate with a hell of a strong clutch with a new pressure plate
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Originally Posted by 06black
a close friend of mine has a stage 3 spec in his RL....were geting 260whp outta it and the clutch slips if you to 3rd to hard....it doesnt hold up as well as i exspected and with more power to come we're hopeing that somebody comes to the plate with a hell of a strong clutch with a new pressure plate
only in 3rd? that doesnt make sense
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yes it was a SPEC stage 3
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Originally Posted by 06black
a close friend of mine has a stage 3 spec in his RL....were geting 260whp outta it and the clutch slips if you to 3rd to hard....it doesnt hold up as well as i exspected and with more power to come we're hopeing that somebody comes to the plate with a hell of a strong clutch with a new pressure plate
Spec makes a stage 4, i have no idea if they make one for our cars....
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I have a Spec Stage 3 in my 06 cobalt ss s/c. I have 280 whp and have no slipping at all! It is a very harsh engagement though. nothing like stock! Id recommend atleast 800-1000 miles of no beating on it for break in. I did 1000 and it is so awesome. No slipping at all! Straight wheel spin or total traction all the time. Works great for me. I had it installed with someone who had many years of Spec experience. They deal with spec all the time and said the install was easy and there were no problems at all!
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
Spec makes a stage 4, i have no idea if they make one for our cars....
Spec offers for the Cobalt SS s/c:
Stage 1
Stage 2
Stage 2+
Stage 3
Stage 3+
Stage 4
Stage 5
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Originally Posted by 06noscobaltss
I have a Spec Stage 3 in my 06 cobalt ss s/c. I have 280 whp and have no slipping at all! It is a very harsh engagement though. nothing like stock! Id recommend atleast 800-1000 miles of no beating on it for break in. I did 1000 and it is so awesome. No slipping at all! Straight wheel spin or total traction all the time. Works great for me. I had it installed with someone who had many years of Spec experience. They deal with spec all the time and said the install was easy and there were no problems at all!
I would be pleased to see some dyno sheets with air fuel ratio ! Is that with nitrous ?
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Stage 3 handles 450tq so it should not slip at all with as little power the RL or SS is giving it. I am having my Spec stage 3+ installed in the within the next 2 weeks. I believe its about 480tq. They do have a certain break in period so take it easy for a little while and it shouldn't slip.
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Originally Posted by BoomInIt
Stage 3 handles 450tq so it should not slip at all with as little power the RL or SS is giving it. I am having my Spec stage 3+ installed in the within the next 2 weeks. I believe its about 480tq. They do have a certain break in period so take it easy for a little while and it shouldn't slip.
humm, maybe I'm worng, but I remember reading on Rev it up'site that the Stage 3+ holds 585lbs because of the disk used.
Here is the link...
http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/sh...roducts_id=638

Stage 3F: More aggressive then stage 3, with a disk simular to stage 5. This is streetable, but much harsher then stages 1-3. The new ferametallic material is designed to hold up to higher temperatures.
TORQUE CAPACITY: 585 lb-ft

I have the Stage 3+ (Spec 3f) and it doesn't slip at all. 800miles of breakin.

Clutch pedal feel on the Spec 3+ was almost like stock with a little bit stiffer pedal feel. The pressure plate sure bites..... and the clutch grips great. Big difference there. I put 800miles on the clutch and then started to get on it. This thing grips, no slipping and chirping gears on every shift.

Feel like I regained another 50hp..lol.... but it's just because my stock clutch was slipping. The difference is amazing.
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Originally Posted by 06noscobaltss
I have a Spec Stage 3 in my 06 cobalt ss s/c. I have 280 whp and have no slipping at all! It is a very harsh engagement though. nothing like stock! Id recommend atleast 800-1000 miles of no beating on it for break in. I did 1000 and it is so awesome. No slipping at all! Straight wheel spin or total traction all the time. Works great for me. I had it installed with someone who had many years of Spec experience. They deal with spec all the time and said the install was easy and there were no problems at all!
so its not a very good street clutch? i want smooth engagement in my every day driver! how is shifting throughout the day, is it a sudden engagement or can you still shift smoothly
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
so its not a very good street clutch? i want smooth engagement in my every day driver! how is shifting throughout the day, is it a sudden engagement or can you still shift smoothly

I was also wondering about how smooth stg 3 was??? I was almost talked into stg 3+ ...
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them ******* are high on crack 800 bucks for a ******* clutch kit that bastard better be made of gold

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Old 04-10-2006, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
them ******* are high on crack 800 bucks for a ******* clutch kit that bastard better be made of gold

mrb
Ya, I picked up mine up for $645.17... Never said there prices were good..lol

My Stage 3+ engages great on the street and I drive 100miles daily to work. Shifting is good, just a little grabby when going slow but purely streetable. It's not like a race clutch.
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ok so people running stage 3, not stage 3+, you agree its a civil streetable clutch that engages smoothly?
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
only in 3rd? that doesnt make sense
no not only in 3rd......it slips in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. i was just stateing that it slips in 3rd wich is CRAZY for how strong this clutch is SUPOSED to be.

however i do not know what he did for breakin so i cant say that its not his fault as well
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Originally Posted by ENUFPWR
humm, maybe I'm worng, but I remember reading on Rev it up'site that the Stage 3+ holds 585lbs because of the disk used.
Here is the link...
http://www.revitupmotorsports.net/sh...roducts_id=638




I have the Stage 3+ (Spec 3f) and it doesn't slip at all. 800miles of breakin.

Clutch pedal feel on the Spec 3+ was almost like stock with a little bit stiffer pedal feel. The pressure plate sure bites..... and the clutch grips great. Big difference there. I put 800miles on the clutch and then started to get on it. This thing grips, no slipping and chirping gears on every shift.

Feel like I regained another 50hp..lol.... but it's just because my stock clutch was slipping. The difference is amazing.

I didn't know the exact # on the 3+ but now I know it holds 585lb/tq thats even better. Glad to hear that it feels good and grips like a champ! This should help put down the power needed. Did you install a flywheel aslo? I payed $985 for the 3+ and fidanza flywheel.
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Originally Posted by 06black
no not only in 3rd......it slips in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. i was just stateing that it slips in 3rd wich is CRAZY for how strong this clutch is SUPOSED to be.

however i do not know what he did for breakin so i cant say that its not his fault as well
It may not of been installed properly or not broken-in properly, because it should be rock solid....
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ok so people running stage 3, not stage 3+, you agree its a civil streetable clutch that engages smoothly?
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
ok so people running stage 3, not stage 3+, you agree its a civil streetable clutch that engages smoothly?
I would go with the 2+. This is what fast06 is running with his modified intense kit (and about 260hp/260tq). It has the holding power of a stage 3 but the feel of a more stock clutch. Most people from what i have read are going the the "+" series clutches cause they are suppsoed to be more streatable but still have the higher holding powers.
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Originally Posted by retrop
I would go with the 2+. This is what fast06 is running with his modified intense kit (and about 260hp/260tq). It has the holding power of a stage 3 but the feel of a more stock clutch. Most people from what i have read are going the the "+" series clutches cause they are suppsoed to be more streatable but still have the higher holding powers.
AGREED! spec stage 2+ will hold the power i plan on with a more streetable demenor. but damn i could get brand new clutches for my old dsm for like 400 bucks.. crazy prices for these cars-wish ACT would put out a clutch for the ss s/c
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Please keep in mind guys, for OUR cars, the only ones worth buying are the spec 2+ and the spec3+, no inbetween's! Remember, it's not the horsepower that kills clutches, it's the torque! Our cars don't make very much torque, plus, our cars aren't that heavy. I think a 2+ is plenty for the majority of the people on the board. I don't see anyone making more than 385 ft lbs of torque with the stock blower, unless your running nitrous. If you are going to do a power adder swap (whipple, turbo) or if you're going to use nitrous, get the 3+.
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i dont see any reason why a 2+ wouldnt hold up. it's not a 3+, but take into consideration how much stronger the clutch is than stock.

i dont have any first hand experience with a stage 3 clutch... but i would think that it is a bitch to drive at low speeds or just cruising. as long as you dont beat up the clutch, should be fine. personally, im going to be getting a 2+.

does anyone have an aftermarket flywheel? i'd be curious to see how much the everyday-driver appeal deminishes.


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