stage 1 and 2 upgrades part #s
11-15-2005, 09:19 AM
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anybody else worried about 1 part missing, I dont feel our clutches will like this boost in performance too much 
I would have liked to see a clutch upgrade
even seperately
I would have liked to see a clutch upgrade
even seperately
11-16-2005, 11:08 PM
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I hate to bring a bit of negativity into the post, and lord knows I hope it isn't true, but has anyone stopped to think that the reason we haven't had an official price release yet is because GM is gauging how much demand there will be for these upgrades? Think about it...We have part numbers but no price...did they forget to figure the cost when they put the packages together? I'm not sure how it works, but I know if I were making a product that I knew was going to sell fast, i would hype it a bit, just enough to get a ripple effect going, not release key things(like price), see how much demand developes, and if enough demand is there, up price to a grand or two, and make a bigger profit.
As I said, i hope this isn't the case, but let's make sure we evaluate all possible scenarios amist our collective anxiousness.
As I said, i hope this isn't the case, but let's make sure we evaluate all possible scenarios amist our collective anxiousness.
11-16-2005, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kritter
I hate to bring a bit of negativity into the post, and lord knows I hope it isn't true, but has anyone stopped to think that the reason we haven't had an official price release yet is because GM is gauging how much demand there will be for these upgrades? Think about it...We have part numbers but no price...did they forget to figure the cost when they put the packages together? I'm not sure how it works, but I know if I were making a product that I knew was going to sell fast, i would hype it a bit, just enough to get a ripple effect going, not release key things(like price), see how much demand developes, and if enough demand is there, up price to a grand or two, and make a bigger profit.
As I said, i hope this isn't the case, but let's make sure we evaluate all possible scenarios amist our collective anxiousness.
As I said, i hope this isn't the case, but let's make sure we evaluate all possible scenarios amist our collective anxiousness.
Hondas new Civic Si---we have specs/pics but no price yet. I agree it doesn't amke sense---they know the price and should tell us.
11-17-2005, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206
I don't think you should be worreid at all. This is a very nromal practice with an upcoming new car. Take the Z06 for example, we knew most of the specs and had pics MONTHS before we had a price---there was lots of guessing but no price.
Hondas new Civic Si---we have specs/pics but no price yet. I agree it doesn't amke sense---they know the price and should tell us.
Hondas new Civic Si---we have specs/pics but no price yet. I agree it doesn't amke sense---they know the price and should tell us.
Pictures of styling cues and teasers = Hype
Hype= The ability to overcharge because of demand.
11-17-2005, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Horsepower #'s + Other Specs = Hype
Pictures of styling cues and teasers = Hype
Hype= The ability to overcharge because of demand.
Pictures of styling cues and teasers = Hype
Hype= The ability to overcharge because of demand.
I don't think they will be bad at all---or that GM is trying to inflate prices because of perceived demand. They want in on this game and likely know that if they are not competitive--not many will buy.
11-17-2005, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206
So you think they stage one and too will be exspensive??
I don't think they will be bad at all---or that GM is trying to inflate prices because of perceived demand. They want in on this game and likely know that if they are not competitive--not many will buy.
I don't think they will be bad at all---or that GM is trying to inflate prices because of perceived demand. They want in on this game and likely know that if they are not competitive--not many will buy.
That's probably where it will get real expensive.
11-17-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206
So you think they stage one and too will be exspensive??
I don't think they will be bad at all---or that GM is trying to inflate prices because of perceived demand. They want in on this game and likely know that if they are not competitive--not many will buy.
I don't think they will be bad at all---or that GM is trying to inflate prices because of perceived demand. They want in on this game and likely know that if they are not competitive--not many will buy.
11-18-2005, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 97cavie24ls
look at the pic
there is part #'s
stage 1 part # in this pic
there is part #'s
stage 1 part # in this pic
)It says that these two first stages are just the beginning, can't wait for stage 18 or so ...
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11-23-2005, 10:36 AM
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just a question...
if you buy the parts (injectors, belt, etc.) can you install it yourself and have a tech reflash? would it still be warrantied? if so, what if you add like cai, exhaust, headers, etc. how does that effect the warranty??
if you buy the parts (injectors, belt, etc.) can you install it yourself and have a tech reflash? would it still be warrantied? if so, what if you add like cai, exhaust, headers, etc. how does that effect the warranty??
11-23-2005, 06:48 PM
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Stage Gaines Directly From GM + Warranty
http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersource
It reads Released to Dealers 1st qt 2006 .Also reads Backed by GM .
I hope Hp Gaines are underated ..
It reads Released to Dealers 1st qt 2006 .Also reads Backed by GM .
I hope Hp Gaines are underated ..
11-23-2005, 10:10 PM
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I'm not saying for sure, but most likely, if you install the parts yourself the parts would be covered under warranty of defects. Such as an injector not working. The chances of labor being covered for anyone but a GM Tech install, nil. If any parts are found faulty from incorrect installation or abuse, coverage would be nil.
11-23-2005, 10:24 PM
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Gm really dropped the ball on the release of these kits! They should have gotten these kits to the dealers before Chrismas so Moms, dads, and girlfriends can buy them. Now there going to release them when everyone will be broke after the holidays.
11-23-2005, 10:53 PM
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I agree, they did drop the ball.
Seems like GM has been doing that for a few years. (along with the other domestic car makers)
0% financing, employee pricing, this crappy red tag event.....anyway...different issue.
Seems like GM has been doing that for a few years. (along with the other domestic car makers)
0% financing, employee pricing, this crappy red tag event.....anyway...different issue.
11-25-2005, 12:48 AM
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They're doing the best they can. A lot of work went into these kits. They went above and beyond to make sure 1 and 2 will be 50 state emissions legal.
To do that they have to send these kits to a 3rd party tester. I've heard Stage 2 is just getting finished with its testing procedure shortly. Then they have to worry about manufacturing to handle demand, then pricing and marketing.
Wheels are moving, just gotta have patience.
I hear Stage 3 is gonna be crazy. Cliffnotes i've overheard: head, cams, pistons, tiny pulley, other things, and NOT emissions safe.
I'd trust dealers to install 1 and 2 no problem, but not the supposed 3. That wont be for newbies...
To do that they have to send these kits to a 3rd party tester. I've heard Stage 2 is just getting finished with its testing procedure shortly. Then they have to worry about manufacturing to handle demand, then pricing and marketing.
Wheels are moving, just gotta have patience.
I hear Stage 3 is gonna be crazy. Cliffnotes i've overheard: head, cams, pistons, tiny pulley, other things, and NOT emissions safe.
I'd trust dealers to install 1 and 2 no problem, but not the supposed 3. That wont be for newbies...
11-25-2005, 02:48 PM
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so check these first 3 items on that site
http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...nce_parts.htm#
http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...nce_parts.htm#
11-25-2005, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick
Check out this thread:
http://www.******************/forums/...0&page=1&pp=10
It was posted by someone who was at SEMA, and he says he talked to one of the engineers who helped design the stage kits. It includes possible pricing information ($700 for stage 2), and other new, interesting, details. Sweet! Check it out!
http://www.******************/forums/...0&page=1&pp=10
It was posted by someone who was at SEMA, and he says he talked to one of the engineers who helped design the stage kits. It includes possible pricing information ($700 for stage 2), and other new, interesting, details. Sweet! Check it out!
Now for my question:
In the thread on the redline forums, its said "11. he also said the factory head is limited on flow to 270 horse so porting will be needed, I already talked to the extrude a hone rep, also sms can cnc port the head...." So for a NoS Kit, wouldn't a great deal of headwork need to be done, as well as a possible piston swap? It doesn't seem to me like the engine can handle a shot of NoS.
11-26-2005, 10:53 AM
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I work at a Chey dealer in Murray Utah. I have talked to my parts people several times and they can't even get me hard numbers on the kits yet. I'm sure my numbers will be cheaper though being that I'm an employee lol. I'll surely holler when I hear anything
12-20-2005, 10:25 PM
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Truely after reading like all million posts in this thread i definitely have to say that i think ill have to get my butt into an SS/SC real soon! All this great upgrade stuff and it still be under warranty that is just a great concept....
Finally GM getting things right its about time
Finally GM getting things right its about time
12-20-2005, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnyNFullEffect
If stage 1 is just fuel injectors, they need to label some fuel injectors for the 2.4L and call it stage 1. damn supercharger...