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Old 11-20-2007, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
a lawsuit will never happen because the simple fact, people are RACING the car. it's called abuse, gm will laugh at you.


trying to sue a car maker over a part they don't make in the first place isn't going to happen. it's like trying to sue mcdonalds because your fries were cold when you got home.
When I said I can see a lawsuit coming I was sacrastic. you seemed to be suggesting why isnt there one since all the problems.

Then we agree on that lawsuit there will never be one. Well there are lots of parts that gm does not make. Delphi is a big supplier if there even still around last I heard they were filing chapeter 11. that is imaterial. the warranty states that brakes and clutch amoung others are not warranty items period.

Funny thing is your trying to argue something that I already said.

K lets shelf that topic. its dead.
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
When I said I can see a lawsuit coming I was sacrastic. you seemed to be suggesting why isnt there one since all the problems.

Then we agree on that lawsuit there will never be one. Well there are lots of parts that gm does not make. Delphi is a big supplier if there even still around last I heard they were filing chapeter 11. that is imaterial. the warranty states that brakes and clutch amoung others are not warranty items period.

Funny thing is your trying to argue something that I already said.

K lets shelf that topic. its dead.
i saved 10% on my car insurance by switching to geico
Old 11-20-2007, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
i saved 10% on my car insurance by switching to geico
LOL
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No clutch slippo here

That means i must know how to drive my car
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
Frank made that 14.8 when he first got the car. He probably wasn't used to driving it. The man was racing up at the valley before 90% of this forum was even born. Clowns.
^TRUE.

I only had 500 miles on the car when I made that 14.8 run (which was my 1st time on the track with the SS/SC, and my 3rd and last run of the night).

Then weeks later 2 more runs, and weeks after that 1 more run. That's it.

But try and tell that to the "racing pros" on this forum, and they just won't get it.

It's also TRUE that before most of these big mouthed nubs were even born, I was driving and racing:
  • '69 Nova SS - Manual Transmission w/350 'Vette engine
  • '69 Mustang Mach 1 - Auto w/390 engine
  • '71 Datsun 240-Z - Manual Transmission

And then later on:
  • '82 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '83 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '85 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '93 Mustang LX 5.0 - Manual Transmission
  • '95 Mustang Cobra - Manual Transmission
  • '04 Dodge SRT-4 - Manual Transmission
  • '06 Ford Focus ST - Manual Transmission

We have a phrase for new firefighters that have too many "inexperienced" opinions to offer:
"Get some time on the job proby".

So now to the "under experienced" racers(?) on this forum who have WAYYY too many opinions to offer:
"Get some freakin time behind the wheel nubs".
Old 11-21-2007, 11:17 AM
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wanna compare experience?
fine we can do this **** all day long sunshine.


recent to oldest, just a quick run down off the top of my head

11.95@117 1.72 60ft 01 trans am
12.51@110 1.78 60ft 02 t/a
10.93@134 1.81 60ft turbo civic
13.1@100 1.65 60ft 05 sti
13.70@103 2.0 60ft cobalt ss/sc stage 2
13.9@98 2.1 60ft k series civic coupe
10.02@140 1.45 60ft 93 mustang lx notch
13.21@108 2.0 60ft gp gxp
13.6 @97 1.8 60ft 76 280z
11.83@118 1.56 60ft 95 gsx.
13.8@101 1.9 60ft 92 maxima.

three auto's, rest manuals.

you're right, i'm a newbie at this game.



my point is simple. before you call some one out on what you "think" you know. you had better do some more research on who you're calling a n00b.
Old 11-21-2007, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanfrank
^TRUE.

I only had 500 miles on the car when I made that 14.8 run (which was my 1st time on the track with the SS/SC, and my 3rd and last run of the night).

Then weeks later 2 more runs, and weeks after that 1 more run. That's it.

But try and tell that to the "racing pros" on this forum, and they just won't get it.

It's also TRUE that before most of these big mouthed nubs were even born, I was driving and racing:
  • '69 Nova SS - Manual Transmission w/350 'Vette engine
  • '69 Mustang Mach 1 - Auto w/390 engine
  • '71 Datsun 240-Z - Manual Transmission

And then later on:
  • '82 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '83 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '85 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '93 Mustang LX 5.0 - Manual Transmission
  • '95 Mustang Cobra - Manual Transmission
  • '04 Dodge SRT-4 - Manual Transmission
  • '06 Ford Focus ST - Manual Transmission

We have a phrase for new firefighters that have too many "inexperienced" opinions to offer:
"Get some time on the job proby".

So now to the "under experienced" racers(?) on this forum who have WAYYY too many opinions to offer:
"Get some freakin time behind the wheel nubs".
Nice man. Don't listen to some of the **** the "experts" on here are talking to you about, they're 16 year olds who know EVERYTHING!! (Not that i'm much older...) I'll have my SS S/C at lebanon valley on wednesday nights when they open up, by then i'll have my stage II installed as well. We should have a track night and maybe get some other SS S/C's from this site as well.

As for clutch slip, mine is completely gone. what the ****. I went out today since I am home from school (car sat for about a month) and opened her up a little. NO SLIP at all from 1-2, 2-3, anywhere. I spun the **** out of 1st on one takeoff, went to grab 2nd, and continued to burn out. I did about 10 runs where I redlined 1st and grabbed 2nd, and the clutch bit hard every time. I'm curious as to how stage II will affect this though, if it all. The clutch is like a woman it's so sensitive
Old 11-21-2007, 12:55 PM
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my clutch was slipping after stage2 was installed cause i was beating the crap out of it, i drove like a granny for a few months and then is spins the tires instead of slipping now
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you're right.
im 16, im a child prodigy. so much so i graduated high school when i was 5 years old.
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Originally Posted by Area47
you're right.
im 16, im a child prodigy. so much so i graduated high school when i was 5 years old.
Are you chinese?
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260 hp and 240 tq... 12,000 miles and zero slippage!
Old 11-21-2007, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
Are you chinese?
::looks down:: nope.


just a shot at your 16 year old know it all notion.

if you do the math, you will find out how old i am.
Old 11-21-2007, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
::looks down:: nope.


just a shot at your 16 year old know it all notion.

if you do the math, you will find out how old i am.
I wasn't directing that statement towards you but okay...
Cool.
Old 11-21-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
I wasn't directing that statement towards you but okay...
Cool.
lol
im bored at work so im jumping around on various forums
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Originally Posted by firemanfrank
^TRUE.

I only had 500 miles on the car when I made that 14.8 run (which was my 1st time on the track with the SS/SC, and my 3rd and last run of the night).

Then weeks later 2 more runs, and weeks after that 1 more run. That's it.

But try and tell that to the "racing pros" on this forum, and they just won't get it.

It's also TRUE that before most of these big mouthed nubs were even born, I was driving and racing:
  • '69 Nova SS - Manual Transmission w/350 'Vette engine
  • '69 Mustang Mach 1 - Auto w/390 engine
  • '71 Datsun 240-Z - Manual Transmission

And then later on:
  • '82 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '83 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '85 Mustang GT - Manual Transmission
  • '93 Mustang LX 5.0 - Manual Transmission
  • '95 Mustang Cobra - Manual Transmission
  • '04 Dodge SRT-4 - Manual Transmission
  • '06 Ford Focus ST - Manual Transmission

We have a phrase for new firefighters that have too many "inexperienced" opinions to offer:
"Get some time on the job proby".

So now to the "under experienced" racers(?) on this forum who have WAYYY too many opinions to offer:
"Get some freakin time behind the wheel nubs".
OMG you've owned a lot of cars, you must be a pro racer. whatever. No matter what you've done on the track your attitude sucks so no one will give you much credit. The "you are all young and don't know" attitude doesn't go far with most people. Also keep in mind that age doesn't really equate knowledge but rather that your just older. I'm not saying you aren't an intelligent person but if you say what you know with attitude no one will really care.

Originally Posted by chris88z24
Are you chinese?
are you saying Area has a small *****?
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Originally Posted by M-Dub
260 hp and 240 tq... 12,000 miles and zero slippage!

what mods do u have?
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Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver
what mods do u have?
2.85
k&n
42's
ported manifold
zzp dp
custom 2.5 cat back
ingalls dampner
my tuning.
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Originally Posted by Area47
2.85
k&n
42's
ported manifold
zzp dp
custom 2.5 cat back
ingalls dampner
my tuning.
That's awesome that you have no slippage! Did you use GM Ported Manifold? Will it work with that zzp dp? Did you just tune it yourself with HP Tuner?
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Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver
That's awesome that you have no slippage! Did you use GM Ported Manifold? Will it work with that zzp dp? Did you just tune it yourself with HP Tuner?

thats the mods on his car. not mine.

im the tuner with this car. the manifold on his car was hand ported a lot more than a gm one.

im over 280 whp on a stock clutch as well.
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Originally Posted by Area47
2.85
k&n
42's
ported manifold
zzp dp
custom 2.5 cat back
ingalls dampner
my tuning.
Originally Posted by Area47
thats the mods on his car. not mine.

im the tuner with this car. the manifold on his car was hand ported a lot more than a gm one.

im over 280 whp on a stock clutch as well.
280 whp is not mustang dyno is it. and if it is then you must be running water meth?
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Originally Posted by Asphalt Assault
280 whp is not mustang dyno is it. and if it is then you must be running water meth?
i don't feel the need to spend 150 bucks to run on a mustang dyno for three runs. check the dyno thread.
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Change the Clutch and Brake Fluid. Period End of Story.
Old 12-10-2007, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
i don't feel the need to spend 150 bucks to run on a mustang dyno for three runs. check the dyno thread.

Check that thread for what. its not a mustang dyno. so your likley pushing 260ish with that setup.
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Originally Posted by Asphalt Assault
Check that thread for what. its not a mustang dyno. so your likley pushing 260ish with that setup.
the difference between a dynojet and a mustang is 12%.

you can't race dyno numbers. get over it. everyone. well majority of the people on here are so hell bent on dyno numbers, they over look the fact that. A. those numbers mean dick on the street. B. i don't care. C. i don't feel the need to justify what i do, or what i put down to the tire.

im not trying to be a dick here, but numbers only get you so far.

want another reason why?

when my car put down a mind blowin 245 hp to the tire. i pulled on a redline that put down 266.

21 hp difference? possibly. whatever it may be.

another case. same dyno numbers on my end, i ran m-dub who put down 2 less hp than me, and i walked all over him, without a reach around.

two cases in which dyno numbers do not mean a thing.

so i pose this question to everyone. why dyno?



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Originally Posted by Area47
the difference between a dynojet and a mustang is 12%.

you can't race dyno numbers. get over it. everyone. well majority of the people on here are so hell bent on dyno numbers, they over look the fact that. A. those numbers mean dick on the street. B. i don't care. C. i don't feel the need to justify what i do, or what i put down to the tire.

im not trying to be a dick here, but numbers only get you so far.

want another reason why?

when my car put down a mind blowin 245 hp to the tire. i pulled on a redline that put down 266.

21 hp difference? possibly. whatever it may be.

another case. same dyno numbers on my end, i ran m-dub who put down 2 less hp than me, and i walked all over him, without a reach around.

two cases in which dyno numbers do not mean a thing.

so i pose this question to everyone. why dyno?



{this is not directed at you, so don't take it as such}

My point was that your not putting out 280 like you say then what your telling me is you could be 300? I said way back show me a slip I dont care what you dyno (still have not seen a slip or where I could find it. Just curious especially your 60 ft. I put down 2.1 on stock meats. now tell me I dont know how to drive or that my clutch is slipping in first and to second lol)

the point of dynoing should be done on the same day and same dyno. do the first pull, make changes (exhaust or what ever), and then do another pull. the closer together the better. This is an old debate that most people on here know how a dyno should be used. dyno days are cool too just to see what puts out more.

but bottom line we will agree - show me the times. that impresses me far more.


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