Blown 4-banger

I think its the plugs without a doubt. OniMirage, why don't you tell the people what happened to you when you raced me before you got your plugs?

OniMirage

i lost

StinkBOMB

It's a good thing pOrk was there to keep things under control. I mean in a comparo of SRT-4's and Cobalts, Cobra's fall right into that category.

Blown 4-banger

relenger

Okay ill let him know about plugs and a intake. What would you guys recomend next?

p7x

The tq seems freakish but the HP seems average the first srt4 that I raced was stock and dynoed 222 hp and 246tq. He ws diff not boosting 16/17, he's boosting that now with S2. You might have been lucky to get one of the 5% of srt4 that werent plagued with boost leaks.

8cd03gro

well umm stock srt-4's could run high 13's with good drivers and lets just say with a pretty good driver the ss/sc hits mid 14's. not the best times from a ss/sc, but half a sec is definately a major gap worth at least 3-4 cars.

Floridas Finest SS

3 cars isn't bad at all, think about how fast alot of the cars are that put 3 cars on your stock cobalts? plus add a 2.8" and your look at 1 possibly 2 more.

StinkBOMB

SRT-4's are nasty cars, I wish they still made the Neons.....

8cd03gro

i think dodge should have made an srt-4 stratus or something. I think if they had made the srt-4 look better which i think they could have done with the stratus with a reworked body, they would have sold like crazy. hell i would have bought one for sure.
http://www.dodge.com/stratus_sedan/index.html
i think the stratus could be a bad ass car with alot more power and reworked exterior.

codyss

The few Neons that have seen very high 13's were beat like a red headed step child to see those numbers. They aren't what I or anyone else in the real world would call a high 13 second car. Thats kind of like the 99-04 Mustang GT crowd saying they have a high 13 second car stock.

And stock vs stock with equal drivers a Neon doesn't have enough ***** to put 3-4 on a LSJ. It's a drivers race unless it's from a high MPH roll and the LSJ is at the bottom of a gear.

CTCOBALTSSS

That's my point exactly. Not 1 SRT-4 put 4-5 car lenghts on me in any of my stock for stock races I have had. Nice try though.
Hey Porkey, are you driving a freaking Jetta now?

SS4ME

I don't know maybe my depth perception is off but when raced several cars running about 13.2 it looked like I was about 5 car lengths behind when I ran a 14.5. The best I have ever seen a stock Neon run was a 14.1 so in some cases they may break into the high 13s in perfect conditions. I have raced a Stg1 neon that ran a 13.8 at that time and I was about 2.5-3 lengths behind on another 14.5 for me. At least that's what it looked like to me.
That Jetta is cute. My wife wants one pretty bad!

OniMirage

if your doing "this" judgement based on racing conditions at the track you need to consider reaction times as well. what appears to be happening is your reaction to the race is slower than the drivers you raced in the srt's which would mean your perception of losing a race by 4-5 cars isn't exactly correct and would be less if you reacted quicker.

leviticus88

With stage 2 and exhaust/intake I raced an SS/SC with exhaust/intake. I pulled right around three cars (maybe a little more). 3 cars is a big gap for just one mod. Also, 1200 installed is a lot. I paid 1000 for my stage 2 + Exhaust installed.

BLKSS

V-Dub in da houuuuse.

SS4ME

I don't have a problem with your car. When I'm in the market for a car for my wife we will strongly consider a Jetta.

mi6_

Here is a video of two of our Alberta members racing at Race City in Calgary (high elevation...so don't say they are crappy drivers please). Jase (the Red SS/SC) is stock other than an Injen CAI. Jekyl (the Black SS/SC) has exhaust, Injen CAI, and GM Stage II.

VIDEO

THERE IS NO NITROUS BEING USED LIKE THE ANNOUNCER SUGGESTS!!!


3 cars is a large gap. Remember that performance differences increase as you go faster. Racing a stock cobalt and a stage II car from a standstill to 120 MPH is going to yield less of a difference than racing the same cars from 100 MPH to 140 MPH. The extra power is going to become more apparent as the aerodynamic resistance begins to multiply. It is also important to remember that factors such as the mileage on each car, not to mention production variations common in engines could cause some discrepancies in the runs. You could dyno 10 LSJ from 10 different cars...not all will make exactly the same HP.

cashstacker

Most all of my friends have srt's and I have raced many of them. All I have is stage and a catback and I can beat most of the stage1, wga, and intake cars.

My friend and I ran he had stage1, wga, cai, mbc, and catback and I pulled a car at the beggining and then he caught up and we ran kneck and kneck until I missed a gear. My other friend has tbe, stage1, ptb, wga and he beat me by 11/2 cars it was 2 but I managed to pull a half a car on him in 3rd...

I'm not buying the 5 car win stock for stock seeing that when I was stock I ran a stock srt4 and lost by a half car (technically I won by a half car but since I got a car jump i'll give the win to him).

for those srt owners that don't believe me ask point or korterhorse in the texas section on srtforums... Practiaclly all of the texas srt section knows me.

SuperSport4

iTrader: (1)

Well ive raced a stock 05 srt 4 and from a whole i jumped about a car until he hit 3rd gear and he put about 2 12 cars on me maybe 3. they r faster without a doubt, now if u catch a 03 04 srt4 and its stock u might have a chance. the smaller injecters on the 04 makes a diff. heres wut it falls down to. 03 04 vs ss/sc=close race
05 srt-4 vs. ss/sc=lose bya about 2-3 cars

cashstacker

04 and 05 srt4's both came with lsd and bigger injectors. 03 came with smaller injectors and no lsd... why would you be able to beat 03 and 04 but not 05? it should be more like you can beat 03 but not 04 or 05... either way my car is a hell of alot faster than when I bought it.

codyss

A Neon of any year isn't going to put 2-3 cars on a SS/SC, if they do the SS/SC driver needs an education.

cashstacker

are you retarded? they have 50 ft lbs and 25 hp over us why couldn't they?

pOrk

denial. Some people dont want to admit that they are faster stock for stock. And if they do, they use words like small margin or 1 car or by a fender. I know may be getting all my comparisons from when I owned an 05 redline and an 05 SRT-4. Maybe the cobalt is 2 cars faster.

mi6_

Yup. I agree. Stock for stock, a 04-05 SRT-4 is faster than a stock SS/SC. There isn't a huge performance difference, but the SRT-4 is quicker.