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Old 09-03-2009, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
just to add insult to injury. i found two leaking injector insulators tonight. apparently the 1/2 fuel rail bolt wanted to say bye bye to me. wish i would have known this before i dynoed! boost leaks are fun
how did you know they where leaking?
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He's just cool like that.
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
how did you know they where leaking?
randomly changing fuel trims. wacky afr swing. the light hiss when 10psi of pressure was pushed to it via a leak tester
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I followed this tread from the beginning to the end! I'm maybe missing something but if I'd like to switch to E85, all I would have to do is buying 79 lbs injectors and get a new tune??? I would only have to do this?? I'm presently with the Eaton, 2.7" pulley and 60lbs/h injectors. I thought about E85 because like some people say, I could avoid meth and then use E85 to have the most possible power out of my setup. How much more power do you think I could get if I use E85 with a good tune?
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Area, are you running the stock TB???
Old 10-02-2009, 10:17 PM
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yes he is.
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Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
Thanks I appreciate it. I have really been thinking about switching to e85. However I am questioning whether or not it is really worth it compared to meth and 93. The fact that you can run more timing down low is a great reason to upgrade and the fact that it has such a high octane rating is nice. Plus I wouldn't have to worry about check valves, or dirty nozzles, or plain and simply running out of meth. Is there anything you don't like about e85 yet? I am assuming the lack of availability is the only thing stopping more people from switching to e85.

edit: What injectors were you using when you dyno'd and what injectors are you upgrading to? Besides the injectors are you going to change anything else fuel system related? Such as upgrading to the return style fuel system, changing the fuel pump, adding voltage to the fuel pump etc. Or are you simply just changing the tune and the injectors?
Gas mileage blows, well im not exactly sure what im getting yet because everytime i fill up i can never just drive the car normal for a whole tank! its always getting floored! i fill up about twice a week at this rate! so $40 a week in gas vs my $30-$35 on 93! i guess thats not too bad! if you are doing the math i am paying about $2.15-$2.25 for e-85 vs the near $3.00 93 octane i was using! I think prices for 93 have gone down since i last used it!
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im wondering if e85 will go way up as it gets more popular
Old 10-03-2009, 10:47 PM
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YAY! I have e85 everywhere here! I'm excited nao. No meth kit for a while!
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Originally Posted by freakta
im wondering if e85 will go way up as it gets more popular
Hopefully it will go down. More farmers are producing corn every year.

Originally Posted by Karlen89
YAY! I have e85 everywhere here! I'm excited nao. No meth kit for a while!
You will never run a meth kit on E85. There is no need to.
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I was just saying that when I do not have e85 readily available. Because if I drive from here to Kansas (where I'm from) I won't have it when I need it on the road, you know.
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Originally Posted by Area47
1.0 lambda on gasoline is 14.7
1.0 lambda on e-85 is 9.7:1

tuning off lambda will yield the same results on the afr gauge. setting an 07 stoich afr to 9.7 just pisses the car off to no end. the sensor doesn't know what fuel is being pushed past it. it just has a set parameters to read off of.



it still shoots fireballs like none other too!
Area, What values did you input to make your pid to tune using lambda? Also, did you use afr % error to tune maf like w/ 93 or did you make a lambda % error?
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corn=$$$ since my whole family farms its win win for me
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Originally Posted by cobaltBlackss
Area, What values did you input to make your pid to tune using lambda? Also, did you use afr % error to tune maf like w/ 93 or did you make a lambda % error?
i don't log afr.

standard box


maf tuning i use the ltft vs maf hz. works peachy for me. i have gone over 2 years tuning like this.

this is also why i spend 6 hours at a time on the rollers when i go to the dyno
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Because technically, if your LTFT are spot on and the maf is dialed in... the car should run at the commanded AFR.. right?
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Originally Posted by Area47
i don't log afr.

standard box


maf tuning i use the ltft vs maf hz. works peachy for me. i have gone over 2 years tuning like this.

this is also why i spend 6 hours at a time on the rollers when i go to the dyno
OIC, I'll check hp tuners forum to see how others are doing it. tks
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Originally Posted by cobaltBlackss
OIC, I'll check hp tuners forum to see how others are doing it. tks
Send me a PM to remind me. I'll tell you how I set up my scanner when I get home tonight. I log lambda, commanded lambda, and lambda err.
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i wish e85 would come to maryland..
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no doubt i feel u i wish they would to
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Originally Posted by Area47
another 40whp should do it. 20ftlbs would get it close. honestly. i am content with it right now. torque steer is a bitch in third
you think 400 whp will break loose at 80 mph??? What tires are you on??? Bicycle radials??
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Originally Posted by lVlemphizStylez
you think 400 whp will break loose at 80 mph??? What tires are you on??? Bicycle radials??
actually yes. turbo boi. they break loose at 60mph now as it is.

capital UHP 225/40/18's.

any more stupid questions you want to ask?
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lmao you crack me up...look at you getting mad because I asked that question. I asked because I don't break loose at 80 mph with 100 more whp and a lot more trap, so it sounds like an issue of crappy tires rather than power lmao
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Originally Posted by lVlemphizStylez
you think 400 whp will break loose at 80 mph??? What tires are you on??? Bicycle radials??
hahaha
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Originally Posted by lVlemphizStylez
lmao you crack me up...look at you getting mad because I asked that question. I asked because I don't break loose at 80 mph with 100 more whp and a lot more trap, so it sounds like an issue of crappy tires rather than power lmao
Your Neon has 450hp? Right....
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Your Neon has 450hp? Right....
if it does....... whoopity doo, it's still a Neon

yay for him, he can go fast in straight lines.


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