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Old 05-28-2009, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
That really doesn't seem like anything out of the ordinary.
I would really like to hear about what you find when you crack open the motor.
Is there any chance GM is going to warranty???



I just saw that Darren. I would expect paypal shouldn't have changed a message thing, I will look at that. Thank you very much for the donations.




And that was in an Optra hatch Could you imagine how much more fun it could have been had I had a real car, maybe even the DD
lawl, that thing handled pretty well!!!
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Originally Posted by firestorm
to clarify, i wont seek warranty, as i will just get myself another weak motor.
i was pushing it to what i thought was 95% of the motors limit for one day.
i was wrong, and i shall gladly pay. but until i do, ill ride my 203 hp ninja at the track and maybe nail some 9's tomorrow.
for the record, i still think the motor should handle the load i gave it. if anyone is willing to dispute what i did, let me know civilly, dont flame me. i also have exedy, axles, slicks, 2.8, 60's, snow perf.,dual pass "B", 3" intake, zzp mid legnth header and hi flo catted dp, corsa touring.and solid mounts.
hey sorry to come off like an ass towards you, I wasn't trying to flame you, just there was someoen I know that is a mechanic that stuck his neck out for a local to get his warrantied...when it really shouldn't have been but anyway...then the guy getting a free motor for his stupidity(pulled the cam sensor and just put it back it with out timing it properly, and goes out racing) starts complaining saying he "irate for taking about a week"...mind you this was his second warranty motor which he did not tell the mechanic stickin his neck out so then it was getting investigated...

anyway, that is the **** that pisses me off....if you get warrantied good for you, but totally taking advantage of it...come on...

this was not towards you firestorm, and I am sorry for coming out attaking you about it.

Hope you accept my apology, and I applaud you for taking on the responsibility, and yes the motor could have taken more, but I don't know how it was setup/tuned etc...good luck with your rebuild
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
So what are your plans as far as a rebuild goes?

All out built motor or just get your kicks on the bike?

If you decide to build the motor I have some nice internals for sale
-drools- What type of internals you talking about... PM me
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run 1

run2


as far as build goes....once i crack it open, all ive done is look at the plugs, and compression test. (which matched plugs). i hope to sleeve a hole, put in 2 pistons.(2 are done, will actually put 4 new ones in for the morons who cant wait to call me on 2 lolz) now do i slam in diamond 9.5's,
or do i put in weisco 8.9's and a tvs? i have another block(cracked), but good crank rods, and head.
once i am up and running, i was toying with sending what i have to bates, let them throw it all in the trash, and build me a real motor. what have you ROD? you have my website right? call me at work, i am here all afternoon. willing to entertain a moment with you...
Fire.

you can clearly see where i blew. i was shifting at 63-6500. egt least go nuclear above 6k real quick.
was trying to keep her cool enuf while i cheated on my run.

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so tell me, how much timing does the gm stage 3 use with the 50 shot on 100 octane mode.?/
bueller???? wot say in 3rd gear. around the .92-1.0 g/cyl & 3500-6k rpm . cells range.
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A copy of the lastest Newsletter on my website.


------------WE HAVE AN ENGINE------------

This is just a short newsletter to let you all what has happened lately.

Last week John Powell found a Denali chassis that has a complete running LQ4
engine. This is the LS based truck engine that has an iron block and the
aluminum LS6 based cylinder heads. The engine is very low mileage and in great
shape, so we used the fund raiser money and bought this engine. We are pleased
to have found this at the price we did because it comes with all the needed
accessories which we would have had to buy seperately if we had just bought a
short block.

The iron block of the LQ4 lends itself quite nicely to a boosted application.
The LS6 based, aluminum cast LQ4, cylinder heads are the preferred cylinder
heads for boosted applications because of their larger combustion chambers.

The intake manifold will have to be swapped out as the truck version will not
meet the our needs. At this point we will stay with the truck exhaust manifolds
because I am assured they will flow well enough to meet our power goals and save
us the cost of headers.

In other news, I will be meeting with John later this week to discuss more
about where we go from here. Obviously we now need to fit the engine into the
engine bay and mount it to the chassis. Then the decision needs to be made on
the transmission that we will use. Within the next two weeks we hope to have
more news on the progress of the project.

Thanks again for caring.

Rod

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what happened to the 2.0 build?
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Good to hear Rod!
Originally Posted by scott allen
what happened to the 2.0 build?
you fail, that went out the bag while back
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Originally Posted by scott allen
what happened to the 2.0 build?
You have obviously been a way from this thread a while.

I know the thread is long and there are way too many pages to read. I would suggest clicking on the link and reading the story on my website as it would be much easier to keep up with what has/is happening.
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awesome
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*standing ovation* congrats rod..
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awesome news! keep chuggin'
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Good to hear the ol' donation went towards something already.
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
A copy of the lastest Newsletter on my website.


------------WE HAVE AN ENGINE------------

This is just a short newsletter to let you all what has happened lately.

Last week John Powell found a Denali chassis that has a complete running LQ4
engine. This is the LS based truck engine that has an iron block and the
aluminum LS6 based cylinder heads. The engine is very low mileage and in great
shape, so we used the fund raiser money and bought this engine. We are pleased
to have found this at the price we did because it comes with all the needed
accessories which we would have had to buy seperately if we had just bought a
short block.

The iron block of the LQ4 lends itself quite nicely to a boosted application.
The LS6 based, aluminum cast LQ4, cylinder heads are the preferred cylinder
heads for boosted applications because of their larger combustion chambers.

The intake manifold will have to be swapped out as the truck version will not
meet the our needs. At this point we will stay with the truck exhaust manifolds
because I am assured they will flow well enough to meet our power goals and save
us the cost of headers.

In other news, I will be meeting with John later this week to discuss more
about where we go from here. Obviously we now need to fit the engine into the
engine bay and mount it to the chassis. Then the decision needs to be made on
the transmission that we will use. Within the next two weeks we hope to have
more news on the progress of the project.

Thanks again for caring.

Rod
My buddy uses truck manifolds on his LQ turned around with just a connecting pipe. He makes 1500 on his setup, so I forsee them being no issue at any point in the build.

EDIT: If the main purpose of this car is street use, get a T56. If it's drag, find a powerglide.
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sweet deal rod!!! Good to hear!!!!
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Started replenishing your fund Rod...
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Started replenishing your fund Rod...
I'll add some next friday...
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I'll add some in the future as well. I found this and I think things are looking good.

LQ4 Short Block - 480 HP For $3,775
All It Takes Is A Boneyard 6.0L Truck Engine With A Mild Hydraulic Cam, A 750 Holley Carb, And Headers To Get Some Serious Horsepower

This is a story that many traditional small-block Chevy guys don't want to hear. They think the new Gen III and Gen IV small-block engines from GM are too expensive to build and don't make that much more power than the old engines. The truth is that while these new-generation engines are different and the parts are sometimes more expensive, there are ways to make affordable power-big power. The more progressive car crafters have already embraced this new technology and are enjoying the powerful fruits of their willingness to try new things. While there's always room for both small-blocks, if you are serious about the horsepower game, it's no longer prudent to ignore these late-model engines. They thump.

We've been watching the used Gen III engine market for the last couple of years, waiting for the right time to jump into the new-Gen world. While these engines are metric and look a little funny compared with the tried-and-true small-block Chevys, the reality is they are still just four-stroke, two-valve motors. And in many ways, they are far superior to the engines we grew up with.

Most of the media attention has been focused on the aluminum 5.7L LS1 or the latest 6.0L LS2 engine. The LS1 is becoming more affordable every day, while the LS2s are still too new to be considered budget material. While all-aluminum means less weight, we wanted more displacement. This led us to the iron 6.0L truck engines. These 364ci motors are really just 4.00-inch-bore versions of the LS1 with iron blocks. As you can see in the displacement chart, the entire Gen III family is similar to the old-school 283-327-350-400 small-block family tree.

The 6.0L's larger 4.00-inch bore is important because we wanted to test the horsepower potential of the latest L92 heads that just came on the market from GM and are being used on the new '07 L92 truck engines. Because of their larger valves, these heads cannot be used on a bore smaller than 4.00 inches. But you'll have to wait until next month for that part of the story.

Even with stock iron truck heads, we were able to crank out over 480 hp with a mild cam from the carbureted 6.0L engine for less than four grand. We were impressed knowing that with more cam and some speed stuff, 500 hp was well within reach

The Used Motor Game
Our search for an affordable, used 6.0L engine led us to LKQ, a nationwide chain of recycling yards that offers take-out engines from late-model vehicles. In an online search, we found a 6.0L engine out of a truck for $1,100 at the LKQ in Santa Fe Springs, California. We were able to obtain the engine without the A/C compressor, starter, power-steering pump, and alternator but still with all the brackets and pulleys.

Since this is a nationwide chain, often the engines will be located in different states, which will require shipping. Shipping costs vary depending on how far the engine has to travel, but according to Brian Sebring of LKQ, they average between $225 and $275.

Among the engines we searched, we saw several 5.7L and 5.3L engines that would also make great starting points (for a little less money) if a 6.0L isn't to your liking. According to Sebring, the 5.3L engines can be had for less than $1,000 depending upon their condition. LKQ pulls the engines, tests them on a stand, and then sets them up on a pallet for shipping. It doesn't get much easier than that.

Of course, LKQ is just one source for used engines, but the company has 65 yards throughout the country, so it makes it easier to find the engine you want.

Inside an LQ4
The engine we chose to work with is the all-iron 6.0L Gen III small-block that appears in many different larger pickups and SUVs. Despite the fact that this is a truck engine, it offers more power potential than a typical LS1 5.7L engine because of its greater displacement and larger, 4.00-inch bore. The iron blocks are otherwise identical to their aluminum counterparts, are notably stronger, and add only 65 pounds. The stock LQ4 engines also use a lower 9.4:1 compression ratio compared with the 10.2:1 compression ratios offered in the LS1 engines. More rare but also out there is the Escalade LQ9 with more compression and more power. Other major differences in this LQ4 engine are the use of the taller EFI intake manifold, a deeper-sump oil pan, truck exhaust manifolds, and the truck-specific accessory drive. Because our first few tests were intended to be used with a carburetor on the engine dyno, the EFI manifold was not included. Even though the truck oil pan will not fit a Camaro or Chevelle engine swap, we left it in place for the dyno testing. The truck accessory drive was also not a problem to retain, but we had access to an F-car-style (Camaro/Firebird) front accessory drive, so that's what we used instead of the LQ4 version. Finally, we added a set of Kooks Gen III headers instead of the stock exhaust manifolds because we were assuming that most enthusiasts would run this engine with headers in an older musclecar.

6.0L Setup
One of the nice things about this new generation of engines is that they are extremely easy to work on. If you are planning on reusing the EFI manifold, it does not require gaskets, as the intake employs a reusable rubber O-ring seal around each intake port. In our case, we intended to use a carburetor, so we lifted the EFI manifold and installed the GM Performance Parts aluminum carbureted intake manifold. This manifold requires the usual gaskets, which Fel-Pro offers. On top of the manifold, we used our battle-tested-tough, Holley mechanical-secondary, 750-cfm 0-4779 carburetor.

Because the LQ4 6.0L is part of the Gen III family, it also uses the GM coil-near-plug distributorless ignition system. The quickest and easiest way to get a carbureted engine running is with MSD's timing/rev control box. MSD has come up with a small electronic box that "talks" to the GM smart coils and triggers them with the appropriate spark timing. The MSD can be fine-tuned for initial timing, as well as both "mechanical" and "vacuum" advance curves by making changes to a couple of very easy-to-understand timing graphs on a laptop computer. That sounds complex, but even we managed to figure it out within about 20 minutes and soon had our initial timing and a full advance curve dialed in.

We configured the engine this way to avoid dealing with the perception that this conversion is overly complex and expensive. The negative side to this plan was that the GMPP intake and MSD electronic conversion box were not cheap, adding more than $850 to the cost of our 6.0L engine. If you chose to retain the factory intake manifold, you could modify the factory electronic fuel and spark curves by using aftermarket tuning software, such as HP Tuner or LS1 Edit to achieve similar power levels. You wouldn't even have to change intake manifolds, since our experience is that the factory truck intake is especially good at making torque while sacrificing only a reasonable amount of peak horsepower. We decided to stick with a carburetor for this series of testing owing to its simplicity.
Test Time
Right out of the used-engine cradle and onto our dyno test stand with the carburetor, MSD ignition conversion, and headers, this otherwise bone-stock 6.0L small-block maintained no less than 400 lb-ft of torque from 2,200 to 5,400 rpm and managed to crank out a peak torque of 439 at 4,400. On the horsepower side, the little 366 cranked out an impressive 425 hp. Generally, a 355ci Gen I small-block would need a healthy cam and some good heads to pull off power numbers like these. This power was encouraging but not really surprising. Because we knew the cam was tame, the next step was a GM Performance Parts Hot cam with specs that most enthusiasts would classify as mild at best.

The cam swap was also easy because we didn't have to remove the intake. All factory Gen III and Gen IV engines come with trick plastic sleeves that will capture the lifter in the up position so the cam can be removed without yanking the lifters out of their bores. While there is talk of the need for specialty tools to line up the front timing-chain cover to the oil pan, engine-dyno-swap specialist Ed Taylor merely eyeballs the parts and they work with nary a leak. We had the cam swapped and the valvetrain back in place while the block was still warm to the touch.
With the cam safely dialed in and the engine singing, our second dyno session went as smoothly as our first. The difference was the power. Even with the mild cam, the 6.0L responded with an average of 11 more lb-ft of torque, with the peak gaining the same amount, arriving at a slightly higher 5,000 rpm. The real surprise was the huge horsepower gain. At the 6,000-rpm peak-horsepower point, the 6.0L cranked out an additional 58 hp, peaking at 483. That's a mere 17 hp away from the magical 500hp level. Try as we might, we couldn't push the little 366 any higher, but that's still a plenty impressive achievement.

Now, before you get all excited about this first test, you'd best start saving your nickels and dimes in anticipation of what we're going to do next. We'll give you a hint: We made a bunch more power and didn't spend nearly what you'd expect. If that doesn't hook you, check your pulse


This chart lists the stock cam specs for the stock, iron 6.0L RPO LQ4 engines (there are two different cams used depending on the year of the engine) as well as the dimensions for the GM Performance Parts Hot cam. Note the wide LSA used on the OE cams. This greater angle reduces overlap and contributes to a very smooth idle. The power increase generated by the GMPP cam can be attributed to both the longer duration and the tighter lobe separation angle that increases overlap.

The Hot cam offers not only 25 more degrees of intake and 21 more degrees of exhaust duration at 0.050 but also adds 23 more degrees of overlap plus another 4 degrees with the tighter LSA for a total of 27 degrees. These numbers are generated at 0.050-inch tappet lift. This is a big factor in the power increase. And this is still a very mild cam at only 219/228 degrees at 0.050.

PARTS LIST
DESCRIPTION PN SOURCE PRICE
LQ4, iron 6.0L, used N/A LKQ $1,100.00
GMPP carb intake 88958675 Scoggin-Dickey 369.75
Fel-Pro intake gasket 1312-1 Summit Racing 22.69
Fel-Pro header gasket 1438 Summit Racing 26.36
GMPP Hot cam kit 12480033 Scoggin-Dickey 429.95
MSD ignition conversion 6010 Summit Racing 303.88
MSD extension harness 60101 Summit Racing 178.95
Carb, Holley 750 0-4779 0-4779C 415.95
Headers, Kooks, 131/44 65005 Kooks Headers 864.90
Pennzoil platinum oil 5W-30 Amazon 29.95
Fram oil filter 4967 Amazon 4.95
Total $3,747.33
OPTIONAL PARTS
Hooker 131/44 LS1 swap 2288-1HKR Summit Racing $629.95
CAMSHAFT DURATION
@ 0.050 LIFT
(INCHES) LOBE
SEPARATION
ANGLE (LSA)
'99-'00 LQ4, Int. 191 0.457 114
PN 12560967, Exh. 190 0.466
'01-'06 LQ4, Int. 196 0.467 116
PN 12561721, Exh. 207 0.479
GMPP Hot Cam, Int. 219 0.525 112
PN 12480033, Exh. 228 0.525
Gen III Family Tree
The following is a genealogy of sorts, listing the bore and stroke combinations for the popular GM Gen III engines. Starting with the 5.3L engines, the stroke is consistent at 3.622 inches, with the larger bore being the difference in the displacement.


ENGINE DISPLACEMENT
(CUBIC INCHES) BORE/STROKE COMPRESSION ROD LENGTH
4.8 293 3.78/3.268 9.5 6.276
5.3 325 3.78/3.622 9.5 6.098
5.7 346 3.898/3.622 9.5 6.098
5.7 346 3.898/3.622 10.1 6.098
6.0 (LQ4) 364 4.00/3.622 9.4 6.098
6.0 (LQ9) 364 4.00/3.622 10.0 6.098


Test 1 was with the stock, iron 6.0L short-block and production iron heads assisted with a GMPP single-plane intake manifold, a 750 Holley carburetor, and a set of 131/44-inch Kooks long-tube headers.

Test 2 kept all the original changes from Test 1 but added the GMPP hydraulic roller Hot cam and valvespring kit.


TEST 1 TEST 2
RPM TQ HP TQ HP
2,200 406 170 399 168
2,400 403 184 392 179
2,600 403 199 393 194
2,800 406 216 401 214
3,000 411 235 414 237
3,200 418 255 427 260
4,300 424 275 435 281
3,600 429 294 438 299
3,800 433 313 437 315
4,000 436 332 434 331
4,200 437 350 434 347
4,400 439 368 436 366
4,600 439 384 441 387
4,800 437 399 447 408
5,000 432 411 450 428
5,200 424 420 450 444
5,400 412 424 444 456
5,600 398 425 436 466
5,800 383 424 430 475
6,000 367 419 423 483
Avg. 417 318 428 336
Power/ci 1.20 1.16 1.23 1.32
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Originally Posted by shutzero
Originally Posted by elecblue06
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awesome
*standing ovation* congrats rod..
awesome news! keep chuggin'
sweet deal rod!!! Good to hear!!!!
Thanks guys. Progress is always good news.



Originally Posted by slowswap
My buddy uses truck manifolds on his LQ turned around with just a connecting pipe. He makes 1500 on his setup, so I forsee them being no issue at any point in the build.

EDIT: If the main purpose of this car is street use, get a T56. If it's drag, find a powerglide.
That is what I have been told as well about the exhaust manifolds. For now they will save money. We can worry about pretty someother time.

As for the tranny, this car will definitely see serious track time so we are leaning to the powerglide. However, I still want to be able to have some fun on the street as I will take the car out cruising and to church.



Originally Posted by XM15
Good to hear the ol' donation went towards something already.
That was the reason I used it so people who have invested can see what they helped buy and the heartbeat is a pretty cool part to help with.






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Started replenishing your fund Rod...
I'll add some next friday...
I'll add some in the future as well. I found this and I think things are looking good.
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Thank you guys. Everytime a donation arrives my wife and I both smile with appreciation for all of you who are helping.

And thanks for the article Doc, that is a good read and encouraging.
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Rod,

Long time no chat, man.

I only came back to this site, just to check on your build. I'm sorry I was gone so long, now. But from what I've seen, Holy ****!

I've got to tell you now, I've been in tears just thinking about what my head would be going through if I were you. All I have to say, is Thank GOD I'm not you, because:

1: I'd be in prison for completely ANNIHILATING the FVckers that did you so horribly wrong.
2: I'd be dead because I collapsed under the pressure, anxiety, and general BULLSHIT.
3: My wife would have shot me dead long ago.

But, The simple fact that you keep going on this project has shown me 3 things:

1: You, my friend, Are a frickin' PATRON SAINT to all true car guys.
2: You've got a keeper for a wife, man... I mean it.
3: You've got me envious, because your huevos are the size of grapefruits...

My prayers and thoughts are eternally with you. Seriously.

If financially possible, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Big Nate Gnau

PS: I love the car's purpose, man.

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Originally Posted by DJNateGnau
Rod,

Long time no chat, man.

I only came back to this site, just to check on your build. I'm sorry I was gone so long, now. But from what I've seen, Holy ****!

I've got to tell you now, I've been in tears just thinking about what my head would be going through if I were you. All I have to say, is Thank GOD I'm not you, because:

1: I'd be in prison for completely ANNIHILATING the FVckers that did you so horribly wrong.
2: I'd be dead because I collapsed under the pressure, anxiety, and general BULLSHIT.
3: My wife would have shot me dead long ago.

But, The simple fact that you keep going on this project has shown me 3 things:

1: You, my friend, Are a frickin' PATRON SAINT to all true car guys.
2: You've got a keeper for a wife, man... I mean it.
3: You've got me envious, because your huevos are the size of grapefruits...

My prayers and thoughts are eternally with you. Seriously.

If financially possible, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Big Nate Gnau
Wow, look whose here I have been wondering where you have been Nate. I check your username once in a while justto make sure you are still around

Thanks for the kind words and the encouragement. As I think of why I haven't gone of the deep end is referred in your first statement, "I'd be in prison " and at my age looking at guys all day long just won't do.

Now from your third statement, "My wife", are you trying to tell us something????

Glad to see that you are still alive and well. How are the knees feeling? Are you still riding the bike for them? Are you out there on a field yet squashing all the little football players?



PS You are right, my wife is very special and the best woman for me. Thank you for your prayers for us.

Rod



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PS: I love the car's purpose, man.
Thank you.

I see you have been to my website.
Old 06-10-2009, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Wow, look whose here I have been wondering where you have been Nate. I check your username once in a while justto make sure you are still around

Thanks for the kind words and the encouragement. As I think of why I haven't gone of the deep end is referred in your first statement, "I'd be in prison " and at my age looking at guys all day long just won't do.

Now from your third statement, "My wife", are you trying to tell us something????

Glad to see that you are still alive and well. How are the knees feeling? Are you still riding the bike for them? Are you out there on a field yet squashing all the little football players?
LOL, Yeah, I hear ya. I come back every once in a blue moon.

LMAO, no that wouldn't be any fun at all.

Haha, No, I wish it had gone down that road. I met a chick, and man, we clicked like there was no tomorrow. So much in common, we finished each other's sentences, Sang the same songs, listened to the same music, ate the same foods, hung out at the same places, man, it was sweet. Then she up & changed her major from Political Science to Theology, and moved back home to PA. We both decided that long-distance relationships don't work. Thus endeth that chaptre.

Knees are okay, it's my back that's givin' me crap now, lol, so no squashing the Footballers. I gave up the bike a few months ago, as my back was going GAGA. But I did buy a new "bike"...

Originally Posted by VictoryRedSS
PS You are right, my wife is very special and the best woman for me. Thank you for your prayers for us.

Rod



Thank you.

I see you have been to my website.

No prob, Man.

Yes, I have, read the whole thing.

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Rod,

Great news man.

Now your one step closer keep it we are behind you.
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Originally Posted by DJNateGnau
LOL, Yeah, I hear ya. I come back every once in a blue moon.

LMAO, no that wouldn't be any fun at all.

Haha, No, I wish it had gone down that road. I met a chick, and man, we clicked like there was no tomorrow. So much in common, we finished each other's sentences, Sang the same songs, listened to the same music, ate the same foods, hung out at the same places, man, it was sweet. Then she up & changed her major from Political Science to Theology, and moved back home to PA. We both decided that long-distance relationships don't work. Thus endeth that chaptre.

Knees are okay, it's my back that's givin' me crap now, lol, so no squashing the Footballers. I gave up the bike a few months ago, as my back was going GAGA. But I did buy a new "bike"...




No prob, Man.

Yes, I have, read the whole thing.
Sorry to hear about the relationship. Distance is very hard to overcome.
I hope it is nothing serious with your back because chronic back pain sucks.
When you say you bought a 'new' bike, I assume you mean motorized

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Rod,

Great news man.

Now your one step closer keep it we are behind you.
Thanks Xen for both the support and encouragement.
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Sorry to hear about the relationship. Distance is very hard to overcome.
I hope it is nothing serious with your back because chronic back pain sucks.
When you say you bought a 'new' bike, I assume you mean motorized
Yeah, Distance is a BITCH.
The good news, is I finally seem to be healing! I can finally two-step again! WOOT!

Yes sir, I bought a motorized one...


Damnit, Thumb's in the way...

But anywho, it's a 2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 750. Bought it with 2324 miles, it now has 13K miles on it. Less than 1 year.


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