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Old 02-16-2009, 05:10 AM
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Water/Methanol Injection Plate, worth it?

i'll be running with a 2.5" pulley, would it be worth it to buy this kit with dual tap nozzles?

http://rebelautoworxs.ca/index/index...products_id=74


will my cooling be more efficient?
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Originally Posted by ajjaro
i'll be running with a 2.5" pulley, would it be worth it to buy this kit with dual tap nozzles?

http://rebelautoworxs.ca/index/index...products_id=74


will my cooling be more efficient?
no. one nozzle is more than sufficient, contact Josh at OTTP for a good deal on a tapped throttle plate which I find is a clean znd ez way to do this, and make sure you put the check valve right against the nozzle any drips back will kill the MAF altho' the Cobalt is better than the Redline for this.

Devils Own have an excellent 5 gph nozzle. (OTTP) Aquamist do a pressure switch so you can be sure the nozzle is spraying, that was the biggest thing for me to be sure about...is the nozzle spraying? As the tunes get more aggressive you cant be without meth spray...
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a 2.5 generates ALOT of heat are you sure one nozzle is enough?
Old 02-16-2009, 06:46 AM
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when at the throttle body yes, but this looks like it goes between the Supercharger and the Intake Manifold. It looks like a good alternative to tapping the throttle body itself.



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my thinking is if i keep my iat2's low enough i can run the 2.5 day to day safely, i know boost isnt everything but a well cooled 2.5 with the same iat2s as a 2.8 will certainly out perform it.
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Originally Posted by ajjaro
a 2.5 generates ALOT of heat are you sure one nozzle is enough?
if you put in two nozzles you will end up needing a 20 gallon tank....if you really concerned about cooling, buy an option B system and buy and install one of our single pass laminova and get a second h/e if you are concerned...cooling isnt one thing, its everything.

fyi On the race track with a 5 gph nozzle a 1.5 gallon tank is good for just short of 20 laps. on the street 1.5 gallons lasts a couple of weeks....you tune for meth. OTTP can help you answering questions they have done it all and have a car they test with...the rebel stuff based on what members say here is FAIL. From where i sit, this Rebel contraption wont do the job...

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yes technically, talk to LSJwannabe about the 2.5, he ran it for a long time, and he knows better than anyone how to keep it running safely.
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"buy and install one of OUR single pass laminova and"? who do you work for? and thanks for the advice, ill save this message and send it to ottp when im ready to buy
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
if you put in two nozzles you will end up needing a 20 gallon tank....if you really concerned about cooling, buy an option B system and buy and install one of our single pass laminova and get a second h/e if you are concerned...cooling isnt one thing, its everything.

fyi On the race track with a 5 gph nozzle a 1.5 gallon tank is good for just short of 20 laps. on the street 1.5 gallons lasts a couple of weeks....you tune for meth. OTTP can help you answering questions they have done it all and have a car they test with...the rebel stuff based on what members say here is FAIL. From where i sit, this Rebel contraption wont do the job...
single pass is win.

Not sure how it works, but a plate(not necessarily from REBEL) would be better than tapping the intake manifold wouldn't it?

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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
single pass is win.

Not sure how it works, but a plate(not necessarily from REBEL) would be better than tapping the intake manifold wouldn't it?
ya 10-4 on that OTTP do a good TB plate. On my redline the inlet hose does a sharp downhill 90 to the maf so ANY drip from the meth nozzle would be fatal for the maf, so that OTTP tapped TB plate rocks big time. Thats what i did. cant post pics here so sad too bad...

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"buy and install one of OUR single pass laminova and"? who do you work for? and thanks for the advice, ill save this message and send it to ottp when im ready to buy
I work for me, and race shop stuff is what we do....OTTP sell stuff we make, i am too rude to deal with the general pubic most of the time

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Originally Posted by qwikredline
ya 10-4 on that OTTP do a good TB plate. On my redline the inlet hose does a sharp downhill 90 to the maf so ANY drip from the meth nozzle would be fatal for the maf, so that OTTP tapped TB plate rocks big time. Thats what i did. cant post pics here so sad too bad...
e-mail them to me and i will try to post them up John, but you gotta send me the big pictures haha.


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I work for me, and race shop stuff is what we do....OTTP sell stuff we make, i am too rude to deal with the general pubic most of the time
you're just the king of sarcasm.
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John, we were talking about a dual meth system in another thread.....

only water before the supercharger, and only meth after the supercharger..
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^why though? it would take two tanks, and meth evaporates faster, cooling more effectively, why not spray small amount at the throttle body, and a little bit into the intake manifold?
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See i didnt know how meth effected cooling ... actually, i was thinking that you might lose the effectiveness of the meth due to the water being evap'd...

It would take two tanks... that was the downside, but... how cool would that be? :P

I guess i was thinking of being able to spray more or less water to cool accordingly, while still having the same amount of meth flowing..
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KISS. One is enuf...
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Haha... dad used kiss all the time when i played little league..

Thanks for crushing my dreams of developing a dual meth kit
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thanks John. i didn't know KISS was something civilians said as well... thought it was an army thing, but it definitely applies.
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Haha... dad used kiss all the time when i played little league..

Thanks for crushing my dreams of developing a dual meth kit
hey I got a guy put nos in his car - sprayed the heat echanger with it - go figure....

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Haha... dad used kiss all the time when i played little league..

Thanks for crushing my dreams of developing a dual meth kit
at least your COBAT in your sig has a clear image header

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A little off topic, but its okay, its just another meth thread..

Hey john, ott is re-releasing those rotated mounts right?
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Awesome

just what i needed to hear...
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
thanks John. i didn't know KISS was something civilians said as well... thought it was an army thing, but it definitely applies.
well the difference between KISS in the military and KISS for civilians is this. military mean Keep It Simple, Stupid and for civilians its Keep It Super Simple. basically we like calling people stupid that we out rank hahahah.
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I always knew it as keep it simple stupid... and my dad had no ties with military, at all..

but keep it super simple works too.. lol
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Sure are
what was your cooling setup when you had the 2.5 pulley in your car?


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