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Well, I finally blew up... Need advice

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Old 06-02-2010, 12:29 AM
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I really hope that isn't the case after my motor is done being built. I don't want to start a hard pull and then have to cross my fingers as I shift and hope it doesn't go BOOM lol.
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in for curiosity.

good luck with the build though.
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Its sucks to hear this thing blew up. It should be interesting to see what happened once the motor comes out.
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new block, sleeve it, head is prob fine. dude youre not making more than 350whp reliably without steel sleeves.
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welcome to my world buddy...
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I live in this world too....
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ralliartist - you never call me any more *sniffle sniffle* *tear tear*. I will soon live in this world, but hopefully not for too long.
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Aftermarket sleeves if you can afford/aquire them, I have no idea who manufactures anything off the shelf anymore, been a while since I owned a Cobalt. When you have the sleeves installed, I'm sure this will be a given but just in case, make sure they are honed with a torque plate, call around and see if any local machine shops have an ecotec torque plate, not many do. Whoever's pistons you end up installing, make sure you use their recommended clearances to a tee. Also shoot for the ring manufacturer's recommended rings and gaps. I've used OEM bearings on the rods and mains to GM's specs with no issues, be sure to check those especially if you end up line honing the mains.
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Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
ralliartist - you never call me any more *sniffle sniffle* *tear tear*. I will soon live in this world, but hopefully not for too long.
I'll be honest man. I lost your number. It was in my stateside cell phone that I no longer have. PM me your number and I'll give ya a holler occasionally.
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Originally Posted by Witt
Aftermarket sleeves if you can afford/aquire them, I have no idea who manufactures anything off the shelf anymore, been a while since I owned a Cobalt. When you have the sleeves installed, I'm sure this will be a given but just in case, make sure they are honed with a torque plate, call around and see if any local machine shops have an ecotec torque plate, not many do. Whoever's pistons you end up installing, make sure you use their recommended clearances to a tee. Also shoot for the ring manufacturer's recommended rings and gaps. I've used OEM bearings on the rods and mains to GM's specs with no issues, be sure to check those especially if you end up line honing the mains.
not hard to make a torque plate if you own a machine shop. but yes, any open deck aluminum block requires a torque plate. MAKE SURE THEY USE ONE
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not hard to make a torque plate if you own a machine shop.
You would be surprised in how many either won't or say they will and don't.
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haha that's why i'm stressing it a lot. it's ridiculous what these places get away with. wish i had my own machines!
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Originally Posted by stanced_balt
haha that's why i'm stressing it a lot. it's ridiculous what these places get away with. wish i had my own machines!
There are also vendors out there (not sure about this forum) that will assemble built short blocks and not follow basic procedures as well. Reputation is the first thing I look at when shopping around for one.
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You would be surprised in how many either won't or say they will and don't.
ewwww, I would be PISSED!!!!!
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
I'll be honest man. I lost your number. It was in my stateside cell phone that I no longer have. PM me your number and I'll give ya a holler occasionally.
Mm hmm I see how it is guy, mmk. Have you made any progress on the extremely ported head?
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ewwww, I would be PISSED!!!!!
Take for instance a company like Hinson where my friend Greg called them out for doing just such a thing.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...97#post6828597
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Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
Mm hmm I see how it is guy, mmk. Have you made any progress on the extremely ported head?
all kinds of progress.

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Take for instance a company like Hinson where my friend Greg called them out for doing just such a thing.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...97#post6828597
I see.

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thanks for the advice.. ugh, this should be fun.
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well if u need a new block ive got one...
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ill keep you posted dan, were going to tear it down later
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Man that sucks. Good luck with the rebuilt interested to see what you do and how much power it will make when its done.
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show the pics of the sleeves!!!!!!
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go with Ray Bates!

http://www.batesengineering.info/contact.htm

when i cracked a sleeve the coolant was gone in a few seconds i knew right then what happened. i hoped it was the hg but i just changed mine too 3days before also so i was like..... its a sleeve. other crazy thing is i was at the same mi as you.... weird all the turbo lsj go at about 30k mi.


the sleeves just cant hang for very long. mine went from 12k-30k
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
show the pics of the sleeves!!!!!!
will do ralli. i believe were goin to start the tear down later today. but yeah, i think a sleeve/sleeves is/are toast lol.. and thanks for the advice chris.


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