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Old 08-14-2009, 04:29 AM
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WTB: Opinions on FM H/E

I'm interested in getting a FM H/E for my cobalt. I've looked at several. OTTP, Cobalt Addiction, ZZ Performance, also Lightning Force Performance and if there are any other please let me know. I want opinions on what you guys think is the best front mount. I personally like the OTTP but I want other views. Also if there was any problems installing and drops in IAT2s would be great. Thanks
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so you want to buy my oppinoin?
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the OTT and zzp S2 are the same HE. http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...new1.php?id=49
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i have ott and love it
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS313
I'm interested in getting a FM H/E for my cobalt. I've looked at several. OTTP, Cobalt Addiction, ZZ Performance, also Lightning Force Performance and if there are any other please let me know. I want opinions on what you guys think is the best front mount. I personally like the OTTP but I want other views. Also if there was any problems installing and drops in IAT2s would be great. Thanks
Wait 30 more days, and you will be able to purchase the markets best heat exchanger available.
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/\ i would do what the man says i would just wait till the new 1 comes out and even ifu dont wana buy itt u can pick up a used 1 from people buying the new 1's /\
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I have a ott h/e for sale PM me if interested
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Wait 30 more days, and you will be able to purchase the markets best heat exchanger available.
Why wait? The ZZP S3 is available now
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front mount is a great idea, esp with you on a 2.5, that creates alot of heat
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
Why wait? The ZZP S3 is available now
For a superior product of course
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
For a superior product of course
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
Wait 30 more days, and you will be able to purchase the markets best heat exchanger available.
What is this new H/E thats coming out. Yah I know it'll cool my IAT2s a great deal, my IC pump is broke my current IAT2s just sit around 160-185 all the time unless im not on it and its cold outside. This is probably gonna be a winter purchase so sorry victoryss I have no money at the moment, since being laid off money is scarce. What is S2, S3, whats that mean?
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS313
What is this new H/E thats coming out. Yah I know it'll cool my IAT2s a great deal, my IC pump is broke my current IAT2s just sit around 160-185 all the time unless im not on it and its cold outside. This is probably gonna be a winter purchase so sorry victoryss I have no money at the moment, since being laid off money is scarce. What is S2, S3, whats that mean?
I assume how big they are/how much they cool. I am interested in knowing exactly how the OTTP H/E is going to be superior to the ZZP S3 right now though.
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS313
What is this new H/E thats coming out. Yah I know it'll cool my IAT2s a great deal, my IC pump is broke my current IAT2s just sit around 160-185 all the time unless im not on it and its cold outside. This is probably gonna be a winter purchase so sorry victoryss I have no money at the moment, since being laid off money is scarce. What is S2, S3, whats that mean?
your main concern should be getting a new IC pump. that alone will make the coolant flow in your system and bring those IAT2's down.
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
your main concern should be getting a new IC pump. that alone will make the coolant flow in your system and bring those IAT2's down.
Yah I know, the question is do I go aftermarket or try to get it replaced under warranty. Warranty yes is good but for it to go bad idk. I guess free is better no matter how long it last lol.
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wow i'm surprised you still have a warranty.... but i wouldn't chance it with all the mods you have done to the car. replacing the IC pumps seems to be an easy thing to do, so if you are a mechanical kind of guy, just do it yourself. i know OTTP sells Bosch pumps for a decent price IMO, iirc they are direct replacements.
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
wow i'm surprised you still have a warranty.... but i wouldn't chance it with all the mods you have done to the car. replacing the IC pumps seems to be an easy thing to do, so if you are a mechanical kind of guy, just do it yourself. i know OTTP sells Bosch pumps for a decent price IMO, iirc they are direct replacements.
Yah I know, I had my whole tranny replace about a year ago with all my mods lol. Completely blew out the 2nd gear synchros, the gear just wasnt there lol. They actually replaced the whole tranny with a new one with a LSD over just replacing the synchros, they said the turn around time would have been a lot slower than just replacing the whole thing. Also when I had my Clutchmasters FX400 I bent the **** outta my shifter cable because of the faulty clutch and got that replaced under warranty which is why my tranny ended up blowing up later on down the road. I mean it can't hurt to ask, they have never really turned me down. As far as bosch I heard that they burn up just as fast as the OEM pump but I've also heard good things. I was reading a post about that other pump Meizere i think its spelled but it was just a war about nothing.
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
For a superior product of course
last year OTT sold the CX racing HE, ZZP was selling our stage 3 for $189. 6 months ago we hear you're coming out with the badest thing to hit the streets.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...highlight=heat

Turns out it was a China HE but sold well because people bought into the hype. We sell the same one over $50 cheaper and raised the price of our S3. Now we hear that you're 3rd release of a HE is going to be marvelous. My advice. Don't belive the hype Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Now I admit that anything can be improved and amazing, etc. But I think a product should be based on it's achievements and technical merrits. So far the ZZP S3, despite being sabotaged here, has done just that.
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
last year OTT sold the CX racing HE, ZZP was selling our stage 3 for $189. 6 months ago we hear you're coming out with the badest thing to hit the streets. Turns out it was a China HE but sold well because people bought into the hype. We now sell the same one and raised the price of our S3. Now we hear that you're 3rd release of a HE is going to be marvelous. My advice. Don't belive the hype Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Now I admit that anything can be improved and amazing, etc. But I think a product should be based on it's achievements and technical merrits. So far the ZZP S3, despite being sabotaged here, has done just that.
Ok thanks for your info. All I ask is dont turn my thread into a flame war on whose product is better. I've read other threads with you in them, I've seen the direction they go. I mean post pros and cons thats fine but dont go overboard on bashing anothers product. Thanks
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All in due time my friend

You can't be the best at everthing, i will let the product speak for itself.

Give it 30 more days and we will let the customers decide
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS313
I mean it can't hurt to ask, they have never really turned me down. As far as bosch I heard that they burn up just as fast as the OEM pump but I've also heard good things. I was reading a post about that other pump Meizere i think its spelled but it was just a war about nothing.
go ahead and check the warranty.... like you said "it can't hurt to ask"

well you figure your stock pump lasted 4 years.... that's pretty good. so if the Bosch is just like the OEM, nothing wrong with that IMO.

i dont know anything about the Meizere pumps, hopefully someone who knows about them can chime in.
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So the ZZP S2 is the same as the current H/E that OTT sells, but OTT is coming out with a new one. Do you have any ifo on this new H/E that is coming out? Also can I have opinions on IC pumps? Thanks
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
All in due time my friend

You can't be the best at everthing, i will let the product speak for itself.

Give it 30 more days and we will let the customers decide
Agreed. No point in debating something that doesn't exist yet.

We've got a new HE coming out too. Be here in 5 weeks. Will be priced under $150.
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Yah I know, I had my whole tranny replace about a year ago with all my mods lol. Completely blew out the 2nd gear synchros, the gear just wasnt there lol. They actually replaced the whole tranny with a new one with a LSD over just replacing the synchros, they said the turn around time would have been a lot slower than just replacing the whole thing. Also when I had my Clutchmasters FX400 I bent the **** outta my shifter cable because of the faulty clutch and got that replaced under warranty which is why my tranny ended up blowing up later on down the road. I mean it can't hurt to ask, they have never really turned me down. As far as bosch I heard that they burn up just as fast as the OEM pump but I've also heard good things. I was reading a post about that other pump Meizere i think its spelled but it was just a war about nothing.
Damn that is one heck of a dealership if they are replacing all these parts with the mods you have.

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So the ZZP S2 is the same as the current H/E that OTT sells, but OTT is coming out with a new one. Do you have any ifo on this new H/E that is coming out? Also can I have opinions on IC pumps? Thanks


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