ZZP Did What?
#277
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You guys at ZZP seem to have some sort of God complex, where you expect people to instatantly trust everything you do just because you are ZZP, that might be ok for some people, but I learned along time ago that getting 100% of the facts is much more important than blindly putting trust in someone.
I wish other people would open their eyes and realize this too.
I wish other people would open their eyes and realize this too.
but other than that, they do seem to produce.
#279
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^ truth. zzp really is like a god company. without them this platform would be just plain **** and without them i would have never of bought my car. they are really trying to put our platform on the map and with things like this are getting closer everyday. whenever i tell my friends that a cobalt ss 2.0 made 898 whp with just a girdle, rods, pistons and head studs, it blows their mind and they think more highly of my own car. thank you zzp for everything.
#280
Haz l33t wheelz.
NO part has a 100% perfect track record. Just because you know two guys on a forum with thousands of members that had issues, doesn't make it a issue of any kind. Tires fail all the time, you dont hear people saying OMG BFGoodrich, you make horrible tires!
I will say Zoomer does not come off very customer friendly, but when Ryan flies to MD to help install a customers turbo kit, that really says something about the company. Shelling out their own money for free tech and labor? Can you honestly say you've ever seen a shop of ZZP's caliber do that?
I will admit i've done my share of trash talk to ZZP, simply because they have had a "mightier than thou" attitude, but that has been changing lately, and they are the ONLY shop backing up their work with numbers.
I'm incredibly impressed, and love telling my buddies on other platforms what ZZP has accomplished. This kind of thing will help put the Cobalt on the map.
I will say Zoomer does not come off very customer friendly, but when Ryan flies to MD to help install a customers turbo kit, that really says something about the company. Shelling out their own money for free tech and labor? Can you honestly say you've ever seen a shop of ZZP's caliber do that?
I will admit i've done my share of trash talk to ZZP, simply because they have had a "mightier than thou" attitude, but that has been changing lately, and they are the ONLY shop backing up their work with numbers.
I'm incredibly impressed, and love telling my buddies on other platforms what ZZP has accomplished. This kind of thing will help put the Cobalt on the map.
#283
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NO part has a 100% perfect track record. Just because you know two guys on a forum with thousands of members that had issues, doesn't make it a issue of any kind. Tires fail all the time, you dont hear people saying OMG BFGoodrich, you make horrible tires!
I will say Zoomer does not come off very customer friendly, but when Ryan flies to MD to help install a customers turbo kit, that really says something about the company. Shelling out their own money for free tech and labor? Can you honestly say you've ever seen a shop of ZZP's caliber do that?
I will admit i've done my share of trash talk to ZZP, simply because they have had a "mightier than thou" attitude, but that has been changing lately, and they are the ONLY shop backing up their work with numbers.
I'm incredibly impressed, and love telling my buddies on other platforms what ZZP has accomplished. This kind of thing will help put the Cobalt on the map.
I will say Zoomer does not come off very customer friendly, but when Ryan flies to MD to help install a customers turbo kit, that really says something about the company. Shelling out their own money for free tech and labor? Can you honestly say you've ever seen a shop of ZZP's caliber do that?
I will admit i've done my share of trash talk to ZZP, simply because they have had a "mightier than thou" attitude, but that has been changing lately, and they are the ONLY shop backing up their work with numbers.
I'm incredibly impressed, and love telling my buddies on other platforms what ZZP has accomplished. This kind of thing will help put the Cobalt on the map.
#286
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Hahaha did my post really get deleted??"
I guess someone doesn't like me voicing my opinion (when it shows ZZP in a bad light).
That's too bad, I was really hoping to hear some feedback from ZZP on some if my points in that post.
Typical forum politics tho I guess, tho shall not challange the main vendors.
I am disappointed in CobaltSS.net tho, tisk tisk.
I guess someone doesn't like me voicing my opinion (when it shows ZZP in a bad light).
That's too bad, I was really hoping to hear some feedback from ZZP on some if my points in that post.
Typical forum politics tho I guess, tho shall not challange the main vendors.
I am disappointed in CobaltSS.net tho, tisk tisk.
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Hahaha did my post really get deleted??"
I guess someone doesn't like me voicing my opinion (when it shows ZZP in a bad light).
That's too bad, I was really hoping to hear some feedback from ZZP on some if my points in that post.
Typical forum politics tho I guess, tho shall not challange the main vendors.
I am disappointed in CobaltSS.net tho, tisk tisk.
I guess someone doesn't like me voicing my opinion (when it shows ZZP in a bad light).
That's too bad, I was really hoping to hear some feedback from ZZP on some if my points in that post.
Typical forum politics tho I guess, tho shall not challange the main vendors.
I am disappointed in CobaltSS.net tho, tisk tisk.
They advertise records, enough said.
You have a problem? Take it off forum. Parts fail, period, from OEM to the best of the best in the aftermarket. Unless you can show evidence of a concerning failure rate, or prove a flaw, who cares. Keep your bitchin where it belongs. That is not here if you still don't get it.
That is all.
Excellent work ZZP! I need to drive over and check this beast out sometime
#289
Supporting Vendor
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Hahaha did my post really get deleted??"
I guess someone doesn't like me voicing my opinion (when it shows ZZP in a bad light).
That's too bad, I was really hoping to hear some feedback from ZZP on some if my points in that post.
Typical forum politics tho I guess, tho shall not challange the main vendors.
I am disappointed in CobaltSS.net tho, tisk tisk.
I guess someone doesn't like me voicing my opinion (when it shows ZZP in a bad light).
That's too bad, I was really hoping to hear some feedback from ZZP on some if my points in that post.
Typical forum politics tho I guess, tho shall not challange the main vendors.
I am disappointed in CobaltSS.net tho, tisk tisk.
#290
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You're casting doubt on a rod and asking questions about whether it's reputable. I think ZZP has proven beyond a shadow of doubt we're reputable, capable and delivering things no one else is doing. Just because you've decided you have a problem with anything our name is attached to doesn't mean you can talk smack in threads like this. Ryan makes 900WHP with ZZP stuff and you're in here questioning the parts? Seriously?
#294
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You guys at ZZP seem to have some sort of God complex, where you expect people to instatantly trust everything you do just because you are ZZP, that might be ok for some people, but I learned along time ago that getting 100% of the facts is much more important than blindly putting trust in someone.
I wish other people would open their eyes and realize this too.
I wish other people would open their eyes and realize this too.
You mention that you need 100% of the facts or you won't buy from us, but you never approached us looking for advice or wanting to discuss a build. You have had a "better than ZZP" attitude for a while now. People that don't have that attitude get the facts from us every day. In the end, they are typically the fastest guys around. Basically, you need to make a choice. Either you are with ZZP, or you're not. Your two-sided/on-the-fence approach typically doesn't work out for anyone.
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Hahaha did my post really get deleted??"
I guess someone doesn't like me voicing my opinion (when it shows ZZP in a bad light).
That's too bad, I was really hoping to hear some feedback from ZZP on some if my points in that post.
Typical forum politics tho I guess, tho shall not challange the main vendors.
I am disappointed in CobaltSS.net tho, tisk tisk.
I guess someone doesn't like me voicing my opinion (when it shows ZZP in a bad light).
That's too bad, I was really hoping to hear some feedback from ZZP on some if my points in that post.
Typical forum politics tho I guess, tho shall not challange the main vendors.
I am disappointed in CobaltSS.net tho, tisk tisk.
#296
Former Vendor
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In your case, Paul- you didn't welcome us into the community. You doubted everything we did and said, and you expressed this vocally. I'm not sure how you would have expected us to act any differently than we did towards you. In the end, I feel that you recognized our abilities and backed off. Since then, we have been getting along just fine.
#299
Holy crap fan...what the heck did I stumble into lol...so much hate and discontent on here and all I wanted to know what a lil about setting up an ecu tune via zzp. I would like some input on having zzp dyno and tune my ecu or if I'll get just as good a result by buying their ecu from the website and returning them the core. Since I can't get anyone to answer the phone at zzp, I've been trying for a couple weeks now, I thought I'd look for some advice here. Currently I have the gm stage 2 upgrade, catback and honed exhaust manifold along with the K&N Typhoon cai on the engine. So my concern is that the zzp preprogramed ecu wouldn't maximize the output as much as having them dyno it specifically. Any input would be appreciated.