ZZP S3 vs OTTP S1 Heat Exchanger ?
06-04-2012, 06:05 PM
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jus sayin...this is 3.0/42's--dual pass only-- custom tune timing was later bumped to 22-23deg no knock thats on my external at work or something i think after opt b and h/e were added.
06-04-2012, 06:08 PM
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My thing is his whole excuse is that he dont care about making that extra power so why in the **** would u pulley down and heat soak ur ****, if u want something that is just a lil faster then stock u should have stayed on the gm stage 2 pulley, honestly ur car prolly makes less hp since u pulley down without proper mods.
06-04-2012, 08:16 PM
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you were commanding a lower afr than i am there. the only reason its so lean is because you maxed out the gms2 injector at 120% idc. and anyone can command 20+ degrees of timing at a 41 degree iat1. its the summer, not winter.. apples to oranges
and the gms2 file from 07 commands a 10.8 afr after like 5000 rpm.
i was only testing out a theory of mine that you can run a decent amount of timing at high iat and still see no knock. if we didnt test out theories, we'd be talking about racing on horseback right now. and just because i have iats get up to 160 * at the end of third gear doesnt mean that im only making 3 inch pulley power throughout the power band. only that i may be making 220 hp after 3rd gear, which i almost never run over 110 mph on a pull anyways. and really if i blow my motor, who really even cares. i roll to class on my bicycle anyways.
you guys wont understand my motivations and i really dont care about yours.
and the gms2 file from 07 commands a 10.8 afr after like 5000 rpm.
i was only testing out a theory of mine that you can run a decent amount of timing at high iat and still see no knock. if we didnt test out theories, we'd be talking about racing on horseback right now. and just because i have iats get up to 160 * at the end of third gear doesnt mean that im only making 3 inch pulley power throughout the power band. only that i may be making 220 hp after 3rd gear, which i almost never run over 110 mph on a pull anyways. and really if i blow my motor, who really even cares. i roll to class on my bicycle anyways.
you guys wont understand my motivations and i really dont care about yours.
I love how this kid keeps deleting his post after he makes himself look like a moron.
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06-04-2012, 08:59 PM
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Lol @ deleting his own posts all the time.
The only reason you're able to run that much timing is cause you're commanding almost an 11 afr lmao. that's not a theory i couldve told you that years ago or you couldve learned in 5 mins reading a book.
And lol @ "anyone can run 20 deg of timing in 41 deg weather".
The only reason you're able to run that much timing is cause you're commanding almost an 11 afr lmao. that's not a theory i couldve told you that years ago or you couldve learned in 5 mins reading a book.
And lol @ "anyone can run 20 deg of timing in 41 deg weather".
06-04-2012, 09:34 PM
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WTH!? He really deleted his tune! Is he embarrassed to leave his posting alone ? Maybe I should delete what I say about his tune! Gosh! Anyways, I fed up and went ahead and bought ZZP S3 HE will be perfect along with my Phenolic Spacer, Option B Tank, Dual Pass. Got all the cooling mods that I need and don't have to worry about it in time. That way I can mess around my car with any pulley but refused to go under 2.8.
06-06-2012, 09:38 AM
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zzp h/e all the way. i had both of them on my car and i love the zzp way better.
lighter, no drilling needed to mount, held by bolts and the hooks to have it better secured, holds more liquid, also the clearance is way better. ottp sat lower than the zzp so i scrapped my h/e often with my car being so low.
lighter, no drilling needed to mount, held by bolts and the hooks to have it better secured, holds more liquid, also the clearance is way better. ottp sat lower than the zzp so i scrapped my h/e often with my car being so low.
06-27-2012, 05:13 PM
#94
Nice, thank you for proving it...
Hey Josh there are some haters on here. Making a big deal about 1.5 lbs, their fat girlfriends slow their car down more than a pound of aluminum. I hate forums for this kind of stuff but anyway quit the drama and buy what you like.
I just bought your HE Josh. My order was put in today. My reason.
OTTP = no stupid logo painted on it
ZZP = stupid logo
OTTP = 175 dollars
ZZP =219
OTTP core dimension are the same as ZZP
dont get me wrong I like our vendors and I have a ZZP stage 2 kit, but when it came to the HE OTTP FTW!
Hey Josh there are some haters on here. Making a big deal about 1.5 lbs, their fat girlfriends slow their car down more than a pound of aluminum. I hate forums for this kind of stuff but anyway quit the drama and buy what you like.
I just bought your HE Josh. My order was put in today. My reason.
OTTP = no stupid logo painted on it
ZZP = stupid logo
OTTP = 175 dollars
ZZP =219
OTTP core dimension are the same as ZZP
dont get me wrong I like our vendors and I have a ZZP stage 2 kit, but when it came to the HE OTTP FTW!
06-27-2012, 05:33 PM
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Yeah, ZZP may have logo on it but that doesn't bothers me. What bothers me is the drain plug under on OTTP HE, ZZP none. OTTP HE drill to get them on, ZZP HE direct bolts in. OTTP HE Chinese made, ZZP HE Bad Ass American MADE! Which better ? ZZP AMERICAN BAD ASS COMPANY!
06-27-2012, 07:26 PM
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If it takes a hit the insurance can upgrade me to Griffin for nothing. Not sure why that matters, do you hit a lot of small animals in your area?
Drain plug is a no player, replace it with a threaded bolt... ZZP says on their page there IS DRILLING involved, even if its direct bolt you still have to drill something... I bet the stereo, your ipod/ipad/android and a million other things are made in China... Your point.
We could go at this all day. Anyway no fight in my voice just fun banter. I still take the OTTP.
Yeah, ZZP may have logo on it but that doesn't bothers me. What bothers me is the drain plug under on OTTP HE, ZZP none. OTTP HE drill to get them on, ZZP HE direct bolts in. OTTP HE Chinese made, ZZP HE Bad Ass American MADE! Which better ? ZZP AMERICAN BAD ASS COMPANY!
We could go at this all day. Anyway no fight in my voice just fun banter. I still take the OTTP.
