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Old 11-24-2011, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnigear
dyno? b4 n after pl0x
Yes please.
Old 11-25-2011, 12:21 AM
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not to thread jack but you think i should do stage 1 or 2 with my set up...i was thinkin 2 but not sure

if i get theses i will dyno before and after for sure!

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im running 80s and meth and was @ 95% duty cycle on them but I was tuned on the rich side. all i did to the head other than the cams was gasket match the exhaust ports and put in ZZP's stronger valve springs.

i do not have dyno numbers so im not even gonna try to pull hp #s out of my butt
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^ how is yours tuned then? street tune? My tuning is all a tad on the rich side too. Id rather have that small margin of safety than just a couple numbers that are higher than the other guy.
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^ how is yours tuned then? street tune? My tuning is all a tad on the rich side too. Id rather have that small margin of safety than just a couple numbers that are higher than the other guy.
street tune
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I have their stage 2 cams. they are amazing! @ 4k rpm they really open up the motor. @ the time I was running TVS on a 2.9. Im going turbo (Garrett gt3076) and can't wait to see how the cams compliment the turbo!
blower cams on a turbo setup?
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Why can't ZZP give us information on these cams in a form of dyno sheets?
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Originally Posted by ebristol
Why can't ZZP give us information on these cams in a form of dyno sheets?
was thinking this as well....but then again i personally think theyre dyno sheets ALWAYS look wayyyy too smooth across the whole sheet. not bashing. just my .02
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
Why no cams in the ss?
Still paying on the SS

I want to go turbo or if i can get a tvs for a good price. Thing is I don't know which route i want to go. Or get a custom setup for a whipple 1.6 twinscrew idk yet lol
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cam ll give hard time to your cold start
it may be difficult at each stop, you ll learn to manage it. you can get a higher rpm idling to counter this issue.

i m a 2.2 SC with stg2 N/A. have some bigger issue at idle since i SCed it but overall i like it.

cam are very easy to install when you use right tool JTOOL power.

it is a 45minute to 1,5 hours job. it is harder to change a exhaust manifold because no there is no room there
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you don't need any special tool to put cams in. Just as long as you know how to time the car correctly your fine
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
was thinking this as well....but then again i personally think theyre dyno sheets ALWAYS look wayyyy too smooth across the whole sheet. not bashing. just my .02
They could at prove the difference between stock, S1 and S2. Any decently mod'd LSJ with NBSs should be a good test mule.

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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
blower cams on a turbo setup?
didn't think about that. where would they hinder performance with the turbo?
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Originally Posted by ebristol
They could at prove the difference between stock, S1 and S2. Any decently mod'd LSJ with NBSs should be a good test mule.
Exactly correct. They test and boast on everything else I've seen except their cams and lth
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
Exactly correct. They test and boast on everything else I've seen except their cams and lth
I'd volenter my RL!

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Originally Posted by MP Cobalt
you don't need any special tool to put cams in. Just as long as you know how to time the car correctly your fine
i dont know how to time it, it is why i bought a Jtool. less chance to mess up your engine.

if you r lucky like i did, you can get this tool for 0.01$ on ebay.
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Originally Posted by huckernage
cam ll give hard time to your cold start
it may be difficult at each stop, you ll learn to manage it. you can get a higher rpm idling to counter this issue.

i m a 2.2 SC with stg2 N/A. have some bigger issue at idle since i SCed it but overall i like it.

cam are very easy to install when you use right tool JTOOL power.

it is a 45minute to 1,5 hours job. it is harder to change a exhaust manifold because no there is no room there
well i would say you have other problems the cams from zzp that i have put in for a friend idled and drove like a stock car
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
Exactly correct. They test and boast on everything else I've seen except their cams and lth
they made over 400hp with a m62 on a 2.4ltr do you think they would have made that with the stock cams
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Probably not no.
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there isent any probably about it they wouldent have i tell you wont be dissaponted and then when you finaly get a tvs it gets even more fun
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What stage do you think would best suit me?
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how big are your ***** and how hard do you want to spin it
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talked with ryan a bit about it. He knows my goals and what im aiming for with my car. He suggested the stage 2 cams(because of how much air the tvs pushes on the pulley im on) but i would want the adjustable cam gears to take full advantage which is what i figured. Cams, springs, port, bs delete, TVS, small pulley and a 8.2k redline= deep 11's for me. Everyone knows what i have run on the stock cams, i will see what ill run on the zzp cams and before and after dynos will be posted as well

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def watching this thread. ive been wanting cams also
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Originally Posted by zrated89
talked with ryan a bit about it. He knows my goals and what im aiming for with my car. He suggested the stage 2 cams(because of how much air the tvs pushes on the pulley im on) but i would want the adjustable cam gears to take full advantage which is what i figured. Cams, springs, port, bs delete, TVS, small pulley and a 8.2k redline= deep 11's for me. Everyone knows what i have run on the stock cams, i will see what ill run on the zzp cams and before and after dynos will be posted as well
When do you plan on doing the before / after dyno?


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