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Old 09-01-2006, 12:21 PM
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haha yeah that's understandable, I used to have a lot of friends like that, now I'm that guy minus the cockyness
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He seems to think its going to be one of the fastest things on the street. He gave 23,000 for the car, and I only gave 12,000 for mine. Thats 11,000 difference, of course there is going to be a difference in the performance. I would like to show him that a 12,000 with 11k in mods (equalling his 23,000) will smoke him. Granted though, I don't have 11 grand to spend in mods, and even if I did I am not sure there are enough parts for the LS to spend that much, but you get the point.
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with 3K or less you would embarass him honestly haha

when it comes down to it, the real power of the ecotec is when you tear into it, but this all requires tuning to run properly.
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with 3K or less you would embarass him honestly haha

when it comes down to it, the real power of the ecotec is when you tear into it, but this all requires tuning to run properly.
Yup, thats why I am planning on sticking with bolt ons and the other basics. The carbon fiber hood, suspension and wheels. Do they make a CF trunk for our cars? When the tuning becomes readily avaliable I suppose I will be looking into getting some real work done.
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Personally I wouldn't think much of who can reach a quarter mile the fastest. There are cops on the road quite often (atleast in jersey). A car is a car, gets you from point A to point B. I'd spend that chunck of cash for college. But if your looking for the best bang for the buck, save up more and go with a turbo (coming out in a month or so) but it cost 3-4 grand depending on which one.

Here's a great example taken for Hahn RaceCraft's Website.

"Turbocharging has long been recognized as the most efficient method of increasing power while maintaining excellent engine life and daily drivability. The cost, when expressed in HP per dollar, is unmatched by any other method of increasing power. For instance, consider that our Stage II system for Talon/Eclipse provides up to a 130 HP gain for approximately $3000. This performance gain equals about $22 per HP. Now consider an exhaust, header and intake: a gain of about 20HP for $1000, or about $50 per HP, more than twice the cost per HP compared to turbocharging"

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Originally Posted by Cougar
Personally I wouldn't think much of who can reach a quarter mile the fastest. There are cops on the road quite often (atleast in jersey). A car is a car, gets you from point A to point B. I'd spend that chunck of cash for college. But if your looking for the best bang for the buck, save up more and go with a turbo (coming out in a month or so) but it cost 3-4 grand depending on which one.

Here's a great example taken for Hahn RaceCraft's Website.

"Turbocharging has long been recognized as the most efficient method of increasing power while maintaining excellent engine life and daily drivability. The cost, when expressed in HP per dollar, is unmatched by any other method of increasing power. For instance, consider that our Stage II system for Talon/Eclipse provides up to a 130 HP gain for approximately $3000. This performance gain equals about $22 per HP. Now consider an exhaust, header and intake: a gain of about 20HP for $1000, or about $50 per HP, more than twice the cost per HP compared to turbocharging"

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I did not plan on street racing, as you can see in one of my earlier posts I stated I wanted to beat him down the track. With my insurance the way it is, I certainly do not need any tickets. I do hope to get the turbo when it comes out, but from my understanding the breathing mods will help much more when the turbo is there, compared to when its not, someone correct me if I am wrong though.
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well, you won't have an intake or a header when you go with a turbo system, because all your intake plumbing is going to be altered drastically to work with the turbocharger and such.

there's nothing wrong with the 1/4 mile, though there are other forms of racing just as fun if not more. however, Cougar brings up a good point in terms of saving the money for something more useful.

like I said, if it's burning a hole in yoru pocket spend it on some suspension upgrades and maybe tires and wheels
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Hate to say it but.......you could go the Nitrous route. Just keep the shot smaller and don't beat the hell out of it.
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Originally Posted by Rush
By cat you mean cat back exhaust system right? I am getting the Corse 2.5 touring, most likely at least.

no theres still a cat in my cat back but when you order the downtube it come with a cat option too. i got mine without it but still have the cat on the cat-back
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Originally Posted by Cougar
A car is a car, gets you from point A to point B.
did you really just say that? are you female?

anyway I don't buy all that short shifter damaging your syncros BS...the rod is now longer at the bottom of the shifter and shorter at the top. so as the name implies, the distance between your shifts is SHORTER. you can't damage your syncros from have less travel distance between each gear.

not to mention i've felt the twm shifter in person, shifts are smooth as butter. the only way u are going to **** up your syncros is if you drive like a retard and have no hand and foot coordination. but you could do that with the stock shifter...

anything that can help you spend less time shifting or hooking off the line I'm all for...
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
anyway I don't buy all that short shifter damaging your syncros BS...the rod is now longer at the bottom of the shifter and shorter at the top. so as the name implies, the distance between your shifts is SHORTER. you can't damage your syncros from have less travel distance between each gear.

not to mention i've felt the twm shifter in person, shifts are smooth as butter. the only way u are going to **** up your syncros is if you drive like a retard and have no hand and foot coordination. but you could do that with the stock shifter...

anything that can help you spend less time shifting or hooking off the line I'm all for...
So you are a transmission expert?
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no I don't need to be

you can see exactly how it works just by looking at it, no degree needed.
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