2.0L Supercharger on 2.2L, can't find part?
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2.0L Supercharger on 2.2L, can't find part?
Alright i've done my homework been on the phone with GM Tech Line and i found out the 2.0 supercharger will work. Ignition will handle itself, as for the fuel the injector must be upgraded to 320's and the pump must be upgraded slightly, but as for fuel management i have been in contact with Greddy and their E-Manage Blue, which is a pretty universal unit should work just fine. Although not yet tested on the Cobalt their hopes of it working as well as mine are high. The simple problem i am facing now is that i have the supercharger and that's all i have. I need the intake manifold which is becoming a complete pain in the ass to find so guys if you can give me a hand on this. Gm currently has no pricing, only numbers for almost all engine components of this car and the deadline for me finishing this thing is the end of next month. I'm just trying to do something that hasn't been done yet (putting the 2.0 charger on the 2.2), so any little thing anyone can suggest would help. Even the old 2.2 supercharger intake manifold for the Cavy and Fires will work. So everyone roll up there sleeves and dig deep into this and see what you can come up with for parts.
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Well here is what i'm doing, i'm taking the factory parameters and loading them into a computer, hooking it up to the E-manage while the car is on a dyno and tuning it step by step until i get what i want and what the car needs to operate at a maximum. From what i was told though, with upgrading the injectors and fuel pump flow would be sufficient for the supercharger but it would not reach peak HP without some tuning to the parameters of the PCM. Look at Toyota for example, which i've been working on for years now (professionally), when we put a charger on them no fuel mod no PCM mod, just a couple oil lines, coolant lines, and vacuum T's and that's it. Recently alot of Toyota's engineering has been coming from GM, like alot of the technology in the Scion line up and with the Corolla which you can purchase a supercharger for at a cost around $3400. Basically right now i just need the proper manifold and everything else will work out as it comes, thanks for the luck, i'm sure somewhere along the way i'll need it.
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y don't u get a 2.0 intake manifold and bore/hone/port it and make it work... idk it sounds like a crud idea but maybe just maybe it will work =) and one question how much boost u going to run with the higher compression in the 2.2?
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another stupid idea instead of a tune y not flash the 2.2 with a 2.0 stage one flash unless your auto like me it should work right?
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another stupid idea instead of a tune y not flash the 2.2 with a 2.0 stage one flash unless your auto like me it should work right?
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Originally Posted by skydragon26
y don't u get a 2.0 intake manifold and bore/hone/port it and make it work... idk it sounds like a crud idea but maybe just maybe it will work =) and one question how much boost u going to run with the higher compression in the 2.2?
Scott
another stupid idea instead of a tune y not flash the 2.2 with a 2.0 stage one flash unless your auto like me it should work right?
Scott
another stupid idea instead of a tune y not flash the 2.2 with a 2.0 stage one flash unless your auto like me it should work right?
Um... I didn't know we could flash the 2.2s yet... if we can GREAT!!! My friends car is gonna get turbo'd!!! If not.. o well...
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NO you can't flash the 2.2 with a 2.0 tune, different ecu's.
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I wasn't talking about the thread starter i was talking to this guy.
Originally Posted by skydragon26
another stupid idea instead of a tune y not flash the 2.2 with a 2.0 stage one flash unless your auto like me it should work right?
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Originally Posted by bumpinbblue02
Alright i've done my homework been on the phone with GM Tech Line and i found out the 2.0 supercharger will work. Ignition will handle itself, as for the fuel the injector must be upgraded to 320's and the pump must be upgraded slightly, but as for fuel management i have been in contact with Greddy and their E-Manage Blue, which is a pretty universal unit should work just fine. Although not yet tested on the Cobalt their hopes of it working as well as mine are high. The simple problem i am facing now is that i have the supercharger and that's all i have. I need the intake manifold which is becoming a complete pain in the ass to find so guys if you can give me a hand on this. Gm currently has no pricing, only numbers for almost all engine components of this car and the deadline for me finishing this thing is the end of next month. I'm just trying to do something that hasn't been done yet (putting the 2.0 charger on the 2.2), so any little thing anyone can suggest would help. Even the old 2.2 supercharger intake manifold for the Cavy and Fires will work. So everyone roll up there sleeves and dig deep into this and see what you can come up with for parts.
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I'm willing to help as much as i can because i think im the only other person that thinks this will work. My project will be to get the 2.2L SC kit from GMPP to work. They said that everything will aslo bolt up to the cobalts 2.2L but the PCM code wont work. this kit was $1700 and it included everything needed from injectors to the manifold. The ecotec build guide will also walk you threw bolting this up.
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Originally Posted by Brandon97Z
I wasn't talking about the thread starter i was talking to this guy.
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"Incomplete understanding of critical concepts is the cornerstone of aftermarket tuning, and by asking basic questions like these you are wandering into dangerous territory. You are running the risk of accidentally learning something through a cheaper and possibly more effective means than by just blowing crap up. I highly recommend you ignore this answer and just go build yourself a bomb." - Dave Coleman
I like what the other members were saying about the wrecked SS models, just take the motor and tranny out of a totalled one and swap the whole thing. I am betting it would be less of a headache that trying to get the 2.0L blower to fit on the 2.2L...
I like what the other members were saying about the wrecked SS models, just take the motor and tranny out of a totalled one and swap the whole thing. I am betting it would be less of a headache that trying to get the 2.0L blower to fit on the 2.2L...
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i think gm gives a reflash (item #) in the build book i don't have my build book handy my friend has got it so as soon as i get it bak i will post some numbers (part # that is)
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every computer is made specificially for that car. Try and bolt it into a different one, and it wont work.
You'd have to flash the computer, but you HAVE to get info from the dealer/gm on what info you need to know to flash it successfully. More often than not, it'll cost you too.
You'd have to flash the computer, but you HAVE to get info from the dealer/gm on what info you need to know to flash it successfully. More often than not, it'll cost you too.
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