2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kingg5
ahh my bad i just figured that if garret is putting a form of tuning with there alpha kit that it would be a GOOD system..not a half assed one...my bad.



mabye hes full of ****?
thanks I just didnt want to be the one to say it
Old 08-09-2007, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by IonFeright
thanks I just didnt want to be the one to say it
lol no problem man lol
Old 08-09-2007, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by IonFeright
thanks I just didnt want to be the one to say it
I don't think he's lying... just think he's relying too much on the butt dyno.
Old 08-09-2007, 08:56 PM
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I see the love has returned to this thread,you guys were scaring me.LOL
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I love how when someone makes a valid point, or when i made several valid points "blackedoutcoby" doesnt asnwer them, and i guess i was hating on you when i stated some simple facts which a few others with 2.2's have thus repeated, like ionninja, because there is no way in hell for one your making 180whp, nor are you going to make 200whp all motor for 1-2k in mods, please go back to bulding your 240 and all those other cars you built before you come in here and start spewing out bullshit, yes it is possible to make 200whp on a 2.2= yes, for 1-2k in mods=no.
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ok shortbus youve posted basicly the same thing like 3 time's ..go find another thread to be the (smart one ) in
Old 08-09-2007, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Brucesblack
ok shortbus youve posted basicly the same thing like 3 time's ..go find another thread to be the (smart one ) in
Just trying yo help you out, not trying to be an ass either, just seems none of you like to listen to logic, including you by building your car all motor then switching over to f/i, how do you plan on doing this? what pistons will you be using? Tuning?
Old 08-09-2007, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Brucesblack
ok shortbus youve posted basicly the same thing like 3 time's ..go find another thread to be the (smart one ) in
shortbus has more knowledge in his left ******** then you do in your whole body so shutup.

Originally Posted by Shortbus
Just trying yo help you out, not trying to be an ass either, just seems none of you like to listen to logic, including you by building your car all motor then switching over to f/i, how do you plan on doing this? what pistons will you be using? Tuning?
hahaha stick it to them shortbus

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Old 08-09-2007, 09:25 PM
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Lol my bad, let me give you hope, go buy a 250$ thin head gasket, and a tank of c16 + tune you will be there no problem, and hope it doesnt blow up! and kingg5 that was funny.
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Lol my bad, let me give you hope, go buy a 250$ thin head gasket, and a tank of c16 + tune you will be there no problem, and hope it doesnt blow up! and kingg5 that was funny.
no prob buddy
Old 08-09-2007, 09:32 PM
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you know...the fastest N/A 2.2 i heard of was a guy with a cavalier running low 14's with a HUUGE list of mods...hes over on ecotecforum(s).com if you wanna check it out...but i mean, if hes runing low 14's, then hes only around 210-220...so getting to 200 will be just as expensiv for you as it was for him...
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Originally Posted by CobaltCpe
i should be making around 200 hp soon with my motor. I have a magnaflow exhaust, injen cold air intake, ss injectors (waiting for a tune for the 07), purchasing the 2.4 ss intake manifold swap and a header and i should be around 200 with a good tune.
lol ricer math there.

180 at the most. your 155 whp stock at best and 8+8+16+4+9 in a n engine doesnt make what it ='s i.e intake =8hp + exhaust=10 added doesnt give u 18

it just doesnt work that way.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
you know...the fastest N/A 2.2 i heard of was a guy with a cavalier running low 14's with a HUUGE list of mods...hes over on ecotecforum(s).com if you wanna check it out...but i mean, if hes runing low 14's, then hes only around 210-220...so getting to 200 will be just as expensiv for you as it was for him...
Exactly, it is possible it will just take a good amount of money to achieve that goal.
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ok .. shortbus .. is my motor built yet !! .. no so dont flame me and try to put me down . and make yourself seem like the good guy .. i started this thread so Myself and other css.net member's can learn about the aftermarket part's for the 2.2's .. so dont be a A$$ about it ..
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Originally Posted by Brucesblack
ok .. shortbus .. is my motor built yet !! .. no so dont flame me and try to put me down . and make yourself seem like the good guy .. i started this thread so Myself and other css.net member's can learn about the aftermarket part's for the 2.2's .. so dont be a A$$ about it ..
perhaps if u take out all that stereo equipment...u wouldnt need to build ur engine to 200 whp....just a thought
...and btw what are cherwin vegas?
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Originally Posted by Brucesblack
ok .. shortbus .. is my motor built yet !! .. no so dont flame me and try to put me down . and make yourself seem like the good guy .. i started this thread so Myself and other css.net member's can learn about the aftermarket part's for the 2.2's .. so dont be a A$$ about it ..
Iam not flaming iam just wondering how you are going to go about achieving this.
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Originally Posted by Brucesblack
ok .. shortbus .. is my motor built yet !! .. no so dont flame me and try to put me down . and make yourself seem like the good guy .. i started this thread so Myself and other css.net member's can learn about the aftermarket part's for the 2.2's .. so dont be a A$$ about it ..
Shortbuss's just trying to help. Blackedoutcoby gut comes on this thread and says he has 180whp with a couple bolt ons. Then he goes on to say after the cams and tune (that doesnt exist yet) he'll be over 200whp.

All hes doing is getting people's hopes up for a big dissapointment.
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any way possible ... im def putting N2o .. so it's not gonna be (ALL) motor but it wont be FI !!
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Originally Posted by Brucesblack
any way possible ... im def putting N2o .. so it's not gonna be (ALL) motor but it wont be FI !!
still tho...what the heck are cherwin vegas?

and not to change the subject...but why is it that people buy stuff from JENSEN...that company blows chunks...and u can buy it at canadian tire lol

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Originally Posted by Brucesblack
any way possible ... im def putting N2o .. so it's not gonna be (ALL) motor but it wont be FI !!
Ok then i would get some high comp pistons, heads/cams, full exhaust, intake, i would talk to g5mike also, he knows his stuff.
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Originally Posted by Shortbus
Ok then i would get some high comp pistons, heads/cams, full exhaust, intake, i would talk to g5mike also, he knows his stuff.
mikes a genious...and man does his car haul ass..i think lol....only saw it a couple of times one of which he was at my house. before he moved to the evil east coast that is...
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Originally Posted by Shortbus
Ok then i would get some high comp pistons, heads/cams, full exhaust, intake, i would talk to g5mike also, he knows his stuff.

see now that's what i wanna see in this thread .. not people arguing .. im sorry if i was a lil snappy.. the first post i made . i was asking if it was possible .. now im thinkin bout goin the easy way and puttin high comp piston's fully port & polish head .. cam's complete 2.5 exhaust and 2.4 intake and tb hopefully !!
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Cavaliers are .5 seconds slower stock, so that is going to be that much less needed to get same results.

This is based from what other people have dynoed:

On the exhaust side, an all 2 1/4 exhaust with downpipe and 4-2-1 header gives 25 hp gain over stock.

That is $350 for the catback, $350 for the header, and I am not sure how much for the down pipe but it is doubtfully more than $300.

On the intake side, I hear everyone saying a CAI is about 15hp which is $250.
Also that 2.4 intake conversion is supposedly from the sight like a hair over 13hp which is $235.

If you add a bored out throttle body off of E-bay, it is about 3hp for $100.

I heard of a place in Arizona that tuned an Cobalt for $300, called Gearhead Garage in Phoenix. This is supposedly around another 20hp.

So far that is $1885 for all of the above for 78 more horses. Of which, I know that hp does not stack like this. You cannot just add them all up, but it enhances all sections of the RPM band and you will have alot more power per RPM.

So seeing as how the 2.2 is 148hp and 155lbs torque on an 07, it is feasible that 52 more horses could be had on a motor such as the Ecotec.
With an older motor, I would say you would be lucky to get another 20 horses.
The 2.2 Ecotecs seem to have a lot of potential, even though they are the base model motor.

14 second 1/4s for an NA 2.2 is incredible in my opinion.

Didn't someone here use 10.5:1 compression pistons on their 2.2?
That alone with 91 octane and a tuning would be a nice power adder.
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will dis gimme 200 horsepowa on mah too too?
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
you know...the fastest N/A 2.2 i heard of was a guy with a cavalier running low 14's with a HUUGE list of mods...hes over on ecotecforum(s).com if you wanna check it out...but i mean, if hes runing low 14's, then hes only around 210-220...so getting to 200 will be just as expensiv for you as it was for him...
that N/A setup that he has would cost about 3K-4K as he has just bolt ons, headwork, cams and hp tuners but you wont get his times out of a Cobalt because its heavier and he also was on drag radials.

on street tires though in a Cobalt you might be able to pull a high 14/low 15 but then you'd need a way to tune in the first place so yeah...


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