Element291

Hey there, was just wondering what kind of parts i would need to buy and how much approx it would cost to convert my auto over to a manual?

MP Cobalt

iTrader: (4)

money and hard work.

Sentry

About 5k.

Go trade it in if it bothers you that badly.

Element291

Trading it in would be hard on the wallet as well. heh

Sentry

Well, I see your point there, but if you really want to swap sell it privately and then just buy a used manual. It shouldn't be that much of a loss if you're going from used to used.

You might even get away with a better deal.

Element291

Yeah, my friend is trading his truck for an 05ss that is standard, and that guy owns vehicles for 2 weeks then sells them. So I'm going to talk to him and see if he'll be interested in trading straight up and me possibly giving him a few bucks.

Halfcent

Honestly it will cost you less to trade your car in for one that is a manual then trying to convert a car into one. We have considered this issue many times here over the years and the dollars just don't make sense.

knoxbox

not sure why you want to convert to manual, as the auto tranny supports more power... but i guess whatever floats ur boat.

D4u2s0t

auto is boring though. many people prefer driving a manual, and in a cobalt a manual with SAME MODS will always be faster.

knoxbox

i beg to differ thats dependent on the driver... and whether or not they can drive / launch correctly... powerbraking leads to almost a perfect launch every time and no miss shifts... but no point in arguing as it'll just lead to more an more non sense, i say trade if you want a manual its not worth the trouble to swap it, that same 5k you could probably switch it to rhd lol... even tho its domestic.

D4u2s0t

you're talking about driver error, not the ability of the car. not the same thing. fact is, you get more drivetrain loss with the auto in the cobalt, and the 4 speed gearing is horrible. with 2 perfect launches, and no missed shifts from the manual, the manual will always win with the same mods in the cobalt. can't argue that.

but i do agree, trading in would be a better option than swapping out trannies, and i think there's other things involved besides just switching a tranny. keep in mind that you also paid $850 for the auto tranny when you bought the car, so factor that price in as well.

originaladrian

i have an auto... but im not ignorant lol... the manual does put mor power to the ground. it does it more efficiently with less moving parts. much less drive train loss

edit- i see someone already informed u

knoxbox

you have to cut the floorboard to accomidate the clutch pedal, you have to buy a new brake pedal thats smaller, you have to probably cut up the center console to fit the manaul shifter, u'll need a shifter as well, and linkage and all that good stuff, not to mention possibly doing a ecu swap im sure there is more too it...

all im getting at is less of a chance for error in a automatic... now assuming the manual does everything perfect then yes i'll agree.

originaladrian

u would have to be a shity ass driver.... i mean bad

knoxbox

so your saying im ignorant because i disagree, i was just merely stating the facts hard to mess up on a auto, i've driven a manual for years longer than an auto... but fact is people get to excited in a manual... they make more mistakes... seen it so many times... launch at the wrong rpm and well, auto gets the jump and u'll never catch back up... theres no doubt that if they are perfect that they will beat an auto... or you get to excited let the clutch out to soon and mis shift... over rev, short shift to many variables that play in, yeah maybe less moving parts but more human error.

D4u2s0t

dude you're talking about a shitty driver though. the difference in a manual to automatic cobalt is anywhere from a half second to a full second. if a driver in a manual is getting a full second slower than they should, it's because they're a terrible driver.

so yes, an auto will have an advantage over a driver that sucks. but that's about it.

knoxbox

even drivers that don't suck make mistakes... and if you notice i agreed assuming all variables were the same that the manual would win... just saying more room for error on a manual...

CobaltTSX

You would be better off trading it in and getting a manual than swapping it thanks to all the electronic B.S. that our cars have these days. The last car you could do a manual swap to that was halfway easy were the neons. With the Cobalt you have to swap out the harness and computer. You have to buy a clutch assembly, fluid resivour, shifter and linkages, and drive axles. Physically not a lot involved just cost. The clutch pedal brake pedal assembly takes a little fabbing the shifter will fit in and go in the same spot as the auto shifter just a little mounting fab work. Question is whether or not you like your car and if its you and fits you or whether you could give it up for a manual balt.

Halfcent

Gentleman.

I'm pretty sure the thread question was what would be involved in making the swap.

I don't see anywhere where he asked which is faster. So lets not discuss that, okay?

knoxbox

bout time someone enforces the on topic rule cause about 90% of the threads on this website are off topic... glad you getting ontop of this finally.

HunterKiller89

iTrader: (1)

i see irony that you were the one arguing it and getting off topic

to the OP....i believe your question was answered. Its just not cost effective. Any other questions?

knoxbox

it was more sarcasm than anything, look at all the threads on this forum none of them stay on topic through its entirety... i was being sarcastic but at the same time glad someone is going to actually enforce the rules... i admit i was offtopic...

HunterKiller89

iTrader: (1)

lol..im not bagging or anything..just seemed ironic. but yea...welcome to the forums huh? we start by talking about a TVS and end up talking about some douche who double parks..lol

wbrevels

iTrader: (2)

either save for a manual car for your next car or trade yours in and buy used like everyone is telling you because an automatic trans is considered a luxury and costs more then a manual from the dealer, there's about a 1.5K difference in cost

Element291

What do you think I'd have to pay if I traded my 05 2.2 base balt auto for possibly an 05 manual? Not sure if they have the base or ss. Pricing on both would be great if you have the knowledge.

Thanks.